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Brought to us by FaDed: Mission Statement of the JASE The purpose of the Jedi Academy Society of Excellence is to recognize individuals who are striving for excellence within the Jedi Academy. Students selected into JASE are highly respected among the JA by both students and trainers alike. Their job is to help, teach, and maintain. JASE students are always available if a student has a question or if a trainer is in need of an assistant. JASE students are knowledgeable and can share their knowledge in a clear, precise manner. JASE students are aware of student activities and will promptly report any violation of JA rules after negotiations fail. JASE Organization I. Founder A. Oversees all JASE activity B. Has final say in all JASE related matters II. Co-Founders A. Assistants to the Founder 1. Advise and participate in all major decisions B. Oversee and run all Commitees 1. Select and organize commitee members III. Commitees A. Selection Commitee 1. Organize and run the selection process 2. Evaluate students 3. 5-10 Commitee members B. Reports Commitee 1. Read and archive all student reports 2. 3-6 Commitee members IV. Students A. Active members of the Jedi Academy B. Submit weekly reports JASE Rules 1. Follow all JA rules 2. Adhere to the JASE Code of Honor 3. Always tell the truth 4. Take responsibility for actions 5. Be on time to appointments 6. Make and keep promises 7. Respect students and trainers 8. Always more praise than critique 9. Do not brag or boast 10. Take suggestions with gratitude 11. Be open to questions 12. Know the answer 13. Always strive to become better 14. Be active in the Jedi Knight community 15. Continously train others 16. Always seek to develop relationships 17. Be skilled in all weapons and game modes 18. Develop a specialty 19. Fill out and submit weekly reports 20. Bring honor to the JA and JASE Code of Honor Commit Yourself To Excellence Characteristics of Excellence Honesty Integrity Respect Humility Knowledge Commitment Comradery Proficient JASE Weekly Report JA Name: JASE Position: Date: Servers Played On: Date and Time of Play: _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
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doobie - Jedi Council 
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Just to reiterate what I already reiterated, this is an UNOFFICIAL group run by students for students. The administration is only offering help getting it off the ground, nothing more nothing less. Don't get your panties all in a bundle, if you don't like it you don't have to participate, and don't need to be afraid that JASE members will have some sort of official function in the JA: they won't  _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
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Aeth S'kray - Retired 
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I wanted to shut my mouth, but I still cant  I just wanted to remind you guys of maintaining the "ordinary" student rank. There may be some students around here that might NOT get into JASE, so dont forget them. They are still equal "worth"! And doobie, why not check the JAK-forum _______________ Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003 |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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No one is doubting that Monty, and they have said that its nothing like JAK, thats not my point. I still don't understand what its for "Jake: it is true that there are students that already strive for these things. but it's not the entire JA. hopefully JASE can spark some more interest in the JA and jk2." So you're saying that by setting this up, the amount of student helpfulness will increase ? Heh, I'm all for that. It does still sound kind of elitest, and although I know its not intended or endorsed this way, people will still hold the people in this thing as some sort of rank or importance _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side 
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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i wanna just say that there are a few of us JAK that work real hard, more harder than all of u can possibly think, we have RL too but we dedicate our time to keep this community in good shape, _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are 
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FaDed - Student 
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wonderful, now that you all have had your say, can we start to revise the outline? |
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doobie - Jedi Council
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Just another clarifier. This is an unofficial organization. We're effering to help them, but in no ways should anyone see this as an "official" part of the academy. it's just a chance for some students to set up an organization to promote excellence, nothing more, nothing less. _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
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Menaxia - Student 
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I'm not sure about this. I agree with (what apears to be) many a JAK's position, and think this is exactly like the knights and as such is verging on the pointless. Would it not be an alternative to have a JASE award instead? Or perhaps form a 'student union'? _______________ This is not the place to look for me This comment was edited by Menaxia on Jun 21 2003 10:29pm. |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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Since we're making little groups here, why don't we make the J-Men official Its kinda the same thing when you think about it..... Not anyone can just join, you have to be chosen (have J for a name ) sorry but this does seem kind of unnecesary, doing all the jobs you listed should be standard practice. About comapring this stuff with Knighthood, personally I still hold the knight rank as pretty much the same as student, cept people know you more which is kind of a pathetic reason. Aeth said to stop whining about it, so I'll do just that, since you have the council's say so I'll stand by the decision, best of luck to you _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Kueller - Student 
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Well, I think it is worth the try as long as we're not getting sort of uber-students that run the server. And I still think JAK's should be able to tell JACE members what to do, as they are still students and JAK's got more authority as they are chosen by the council and I have mroe faith in the council/JAT's than in this thing. Not because I don't trust you guys, but because they have been around longer and know the drill. _______________ Personal sleepness-nights-supporter of Virtue. Owner of the 1000th comment of Daidalus and 1943th comment of Gradius! Owner of the 300th comment of Carda! -Taught Gradius all his laming skills
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Good points Aeth. Your last section-> If it's decided that's it gonna get made, then you're right, keep an eye on them, don't take away their motivation, use your experience as JAK's/JAT's/mææhs/whatever to give them advise on how to do it best possible. |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Do I really need a JACE tag, people call me it already..... Sorry, couldn't help it. |
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Aeth S'kray - Retired
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Mobility, it is not about the JAK's egos. We (or at least I ) do not fear a loss of reputation or something like that, no way! Those who actually get knight should stand over those matters (right knights? ) No, it's something different. It's the whole point of this project. You maybe were not around/too young or simply forgot the original idea of the knight-rank. Knights were ment to be special students, those who could server as an example for others and be generally the nice guy to adress to. It was a recognition for those members who stayed with the JA for a long time and gained a certain level but still didnt want to start teaching. Knights were ment to be the students best friends, their tag should be a symbol for helpfulness, fairness and skill. As you may see yourself, the JASE-ideas and knight is simply the same thing, beside some minor issues. I hate to repeat myself, but: If you think the knights dont do their job (which would be no blasphemy ) simply get them on the right path again, instead of going the long way around.Having two organisations whith the same purpose is just... well... not neccessary. If we would continue this thought, we soon will have the JATs supported by the JAKs who are supported by the JASEs who are supported by the elite-students who are supported by the improoved-elite-students who are supported by the uber-eilte-students... This is of course exaggerated, but you may get my idea Dont get me wrong, I love the idea of a student organisation, I love the idea of a student recognition system who highlight those who are just cool (fizz, jake, acey, jello, jacen, ulic, javaguy, buzz to name just SOME of our weirdos) and i wouldnt mind changing the JAKs a bit aswell... but creating this new JASE thing which has the same task as an existing group is imo not the right way. Especially with seperated server and website events which could easily exclude the ordinary students!! Anyway, the council made his decision, I personally do not like it, but they did. There is no point is simply going on whining and complaining about this fact, it is set now. Therefore I think it would be best to not kill their motivation with complaining all the way, and not even give them a chance to get started. Lets have an watchfull eye on them and see how they develop and maybe reconsider their use after some months. _______________ Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003 |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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i still dont see the reason for it, i am a polite person and help alot out but i dont need JACE tag to prove it, u see my point, u can do this incognito if u know wot i mean _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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doobie - Jedi Council
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FYI, the JACs (well, DJ and I) have offered to support this in any way needed, but we're also taking a background stance, meaning we won't be directly involved unless people ask us to help. As far as i see it, the JASE, is like the National Honor Society in high school (in the US at least): it's set up to recognize and give the students who "excel" a chance to have a chance to meet and be recognized. But the only actual benefit in terms of school is a fancy ribbon you get to wear over your graduation gown (at least at my school) and a note on your record for universities (aka JATs and JACs) to see. However, we will in NO WAY be limiting future JAKs, JATs, and JACs to members of JASE, it's a separate body Good luck Faded, DM, and JP, you gots lots o' work ahead of you _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
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SirBizNatch - Student 
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hmmm...WAAAAAAAAAAAY too confusing for me, ill just stick ta dueling. _______________ Personal body guard to teh 1337 Jacen Aratan! Midbie Council Memeber||Member of the Almighty FiZZsters |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student 
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Okay, well time to add my two cents. JASE is not about infringing on the JAK, JAT, or otherwise. This Organization is about COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE. And while, yes, all students should do that anyways, there are those that do not. The idea is to have a large amount of JASE members who, when met anywhere or anytime permeate a positive attitude and are willing to serve higher ranks, but specifically students. Serving, means: Teaching the way of the saber, having an open ear for anyone, aiding JA in JA affairs, promoting JA on public servers, etc. (you can read more on the JASE Code of Honor) It is to display the outmost character. And when any student sees JACE in your tag, they KNOW they have found a friend. Make sense? I see the JAK's seem to have the most negative things to say, and understandably so. You have worked very hard for your rank and may feel that this organization undermines or jeapordizes your status as a JAK. Perhaps, I might feel the same way after a glance at the JASE. However, you must understand, THIS IS A SUPPORT SYSTEM, for YOU and ALL STUDENTS alike. We just want to bring the JA up to the next level for the students, make them feel more at home, knowing that all thier hard work that seemingly goes unnoticed has a much better chance of being seen due to the fact that there are more people watching. We plan on the JASE committee being from all over the globe, so at any time zone there will be a JASE presence there. JASE, will have it's own sub-site of the JA and it's own server for JASE events and meetings. These will be up with in the week. Sooner if I can find more time Anyways, that is my take and I hope it sheds some light where it may not have been before. -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget
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alot of people have the skill but u need to be mature to get rank of knight alot of u arent, not pointing fingers _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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FaDed - Student 
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Monty: we're not a bunch of vigilantes here. |
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JP - Academy Pimp 
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wow alot of activity, ill add my feeling on why i wanted to start this whole thing, i feel there are many of us out there that could recieve the title of knight, i feel many of us love to help others out and want to have leadership roles, this is just a organized way to help ur fellow student out, while getting some recognition and adding some more interest in the game. _______________ Come on now, every Generation X boy wanted to be Luke Skywalker. Is it because he was a whiney farm boy from some backwater hack planet? No, it's because he was a FREAKING JEDI. He could block lasers with his lightsaber. He could levitate droids & rocks & crap with his mind. Come on, he choked two pig dudes with just a simple gesture. He cut off Darth Vader's hand and kicked him down a flight of stairs. He got his @$$ zapped by lightning from the geezer Emperor, stood up and said "s'at all you got b!tc#??" |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget
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why not call it JEDI ACADEMY POLICE DEPARTMENT :\ to me there seems no need for it, but i will assist if i can, altho again i see no reason, more JAK are coming in and it should be fine with that _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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FaDed - Student
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Rendar: i'll talk to moby and JP about it. Ruuk: the student report is a weekly submition that members complete to help the reports commitee keep tabs on them. it's just a short summary of what the member did while they were on the servers. nothing too big or unnecessary. Jake: it is true that there are students that already strive for these things. but it's not the entire JA. hopefully JASE can spark some more interest in the JA and jk2. Kilik: the JAKs and above have already done their part in JASE. they approved it and now it is up to the students to revise and polish it up. This comment was edited by FaDed on Jun 21 2003 07:07pm. |
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Kilik - Ex-Student 
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I think this is a nice way to put things into organization. But make sure all u JAKs,JATs, and JACs have an interview for all the people who are going to be in this. Itll help so that the helpful and skilled will be able to take part in this. _______________ -First Padawan of Chicka- Would you like to get aquainted with the tip of my saber? Do not befriend it, it is not kind. Because when blood spills, it won't be mine. |
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Jake Kainite - Student
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this sounds great an all, but whats it for exactly ? everything I've read in there students already do. You can't put people on a pedestal jsut becasue they play the game more or help people. Some people are very skilled players, but don't or can't help people. Some people love helping others but aren't very good at the game. Can you explain to me what this then ? _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Ruuk Haviser - Retired 
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FaDed- Could you elaborate on your statement regarding "student reports"? I thought this was a good idea until I saw that... *gasp!* More paperwork?! Of course, I think _your_ idea of a report may be far, far different than mine. Just elaborate to stifle my fears, please. -rh _______________ Back from the dead... |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
"once JASE is officially up and running, my co-founders (Darth Mobility and Jedi Prodigy) will select the commitees. one of which is the selection commitee. i am leaving it up to the selection commitee to develop and run the selection process. so to answer your question jacen, you are selected or "nominated" into JASE." |
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ODIN - Ex-Student 
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Count me in. _______________ Next time you wave, Use all your fingers! |
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