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Meeting Log: 17May2003, 4pm GMT.
May 17 2003 05:26pm

Ruuk Haviser
 - Retired
Ruuk Haviser
*steps on soapbox*

Well, it seems as though a lot of people had RL issues to contend with. Hence, there were very few attendees at our much publicized Holocron meeting: only myself, Bubu, and Exar.

Do I sound a little irritated? I'm sorry. Let me just say that I'm a little disappointed. :( I've tried very hard to accomodate and give everyone enough time (2 weeks) to organize their schedules. Although this _is_ only a game, you could consider this a "trial run" (if you will) for RL. Make mistakes here, and you aren't going to get bad school grades. Nor are you going to get fired from your job. Just think of this as some practice. And, boy! If I'm the coach, than some of you need to run some laps!! :)

Since I'm a little older than most of you (32) I have a little more experience juggling RL stuff. And frankly, I can remember what it was like when I was yer age. I could have - no, would have - very easily been on the other side of the fence. I don't think I knew where my _brain_ was half the time, let alone remember a meeting.

So, let's just consider this a lesson learned, shall we? :)

*steps off soapbox*

Ok, now that I'm done chastising everyone... ;)below, I have provided the meeting log for yer perusal.

The main decision coming out of this truncated meeting was the following: unless DJ has complications with this, I have decreed (with unanimous agreement from those in the meeting) that the Holocron will be handed over to DJ in 2 weeks. If some of the sections are not complete, we will go forward without them. "Under construction" will be the going phrase for those sections. We'll have to put them in sometime at a later date.

Any questions, gisjedi@hotmail.com.

-rh

<Ruuk> let me look over bubu's stuff...
<Ruuk> i'll be back in a sec
<Bubu|JAT|> k
<Ruuk> i'd like to suggest something...
<Ruuk> the pictures of the ja from the maps are cool...
<Bubu|JAT|> yeah
<Ruuk> but, they don't really show you what it looks like when you _enter_ the place.
<Bubu|JAT|> true
<Bubu|JAT|> so you're suggesting pics from the door?
<Ruuk> well...
<Ruuk> i guess maybe so.
<Ruuk> reason:
<Ruuk> at least my reasoning:
<Ruuk> you have a new person coming in...
<Ruuk> they want to be able to feel comfortable with where they are.
<Ruuk> for _us_ those pics rock.
<Bubu|JAT|> yeah i see what you mean
<Ruuk> but, i dunno if it is what you need for a newbie.
<Bubu|JAT|> what about the council room... pic from the spawn point?
<Ruuk> yeah.
<Ruuk> that would be good.
<Bubu|JAT|> i can put in more than one pic.. more angles
<Ruuk> was just thinking that.
<Ruuk> yeah
<Bubu|JAT|> yeah
<Bubu|JAT|> ok /me makes a note
<Bubu|JAT|> do
<Bubu|JAT|> DOH
<Bubu|JAT|> lol
<Ruuk> lol
<Bubu|JAT|> anywho
<Ruuk> let me see.
<LordExarKun|JAK> sjeesh, where is every1 :'(
<Ruuk> is the demo the same?
<Bubu|JAT|> i know!
<Bubu|JAT|> yeah it is
<Ruuk> ok
<Bubu|JAT|> you want my entire presentation?
<Ruuk> you go girl.
<Bubu|JAT|> lol
<Bubu|JAT|> ok
<Bubu|JAT|> SHIT
<Bubu|JAT|> that was scary
<Ruuk> uh, oh
<Bubu|JAT|> my lightbulb blew up
<Ruuk> just _that_?
<Ruuk> crap.
<Ruuk> i thought you lost the whole thing or something.
<Bubu|JAT|> it scared the crap outta me
<Bubu|JAT|> lol
<Bubu|JAT|> no
<Ruuk> ...important...
<Bubu|JAT|> hold on
<Ruuk> lol
<Ruuk> k
<Bubu|JAT|> ok
<Ruuk> ...
<Bubu|JAT|> *BEGIN TRANSMISSION*
<Bubu|JAT|> http://ja.here.ws Is all my work so far. Check it out later (not now) and tell me what you think: what I should change, what I should change, etc... I want all of you to comment.
<Bubu|JAT|> It basically includes the following:
<Bubu|JAT|> - What the JA is
<Bubu|JAT|> - How to get started
<Bubu|JAT|> - Rules
<Bubu|JAT|> - Rules
<Bubu|JAT|> - Map tour
<Bubu|JAT|> - Ranks explanation
<Bubu|JAT|> I still need to work on the following, preferably with some help to get it done faster:
<Bubu|JAT|>
<Bubu|JAT|> - Software and files needed to play and how to install/use them
<Bubu|JAT|> - How to setup and join the JA servers in JK2
<Bubu|JAT|> - Classes and how they work
<Bubu|JAT|> - Master/Padawan relations at the JA
<Bubu|JAT|> - The unwritten rules both on the site and on the servers
<Bubu|JAT|> - The history of the JA (already done thanks to icco, needs to be incorporated into my site)
<Bubu|JAT|> - Compile all the questions for the oldbie interviews and complete interviews (to be part of the JA history)
<Bubu|JAT|> - Anything else?
<Bubu|JAT|> I still have a lot to do. Sorry it is taking so long... :p
<Bubu|JAT|> *END OF TRANSMISSION*
<Bubu|JAT|> hehe
<Bubu|JAT|> i hope you didnt get cut off by the flood protection or somethin
<Ruuk> hell, that was exactly what i wanted.
<Ruuk> no, ok here.
<Bubu|JAT|> good :)
* Ruuk on broadband.
<Bubu|JAT|> i know ut IRC has it
<Ruuk> let me read this thing...
<Bubu|JAT|> but*
<Bubu|JAT|> ok
<Ruuk> wow...that's great.
<Bubu|JAT|> lol i just realized i sai "
<Ruuk> exar? what do you think?
<Bubu|JAT|> i said "what i should change" twice
<Ruuk> i caught that.
<Bubu|JAT|> hehe
<Ruuk> figured it was just a screw up.
<Ruuk> np
<Bubu|JAT|> ye
<Bubu|JAT|> i meant what i should change and what i should add
<Ruuk> k
<Ruuk> i'm gonna make a copy of this whole thing for JA staff consumption.
<Ruuk> they'll get yer fix.
<Bubu|JAT|> w00t
<Ruuk> looks like you've got things covered, bubu.
<Ruuk> *pats him on back*
<LordExarKun|JAK> brb
<Bubu|JAT|> hehe
<Ruuk> the only thing i'd suggest...
<Bubu|JAT|> yessir
<Ruuk> is that we try and make sure we put in topic headings.
<Bubu|JAT|> yes
<Bubu|JAT|> i forgot to mention
<Bubu|JAT|> the site as it is now is a mess
<Ruuk> ok
<Bubu|JAT|> i need to organize it
<Ruuk> understood.
<Bubu|JAT|> it will be better
<Bubu|JAT|> :)
<Ruuk> np. just wanted to throw my 2 1/2 cents in.
<Bubu|JAT|> cool
<Ruuk> let me throw something else by you...
<Ruuk> i was working with undead...
<Ruuk> and we were talking about an avi movie in the beginning...
<Bubu|JAT|> yes he sent me one
<Ruuk> not your demo...
<Bubu|JAT|> oh
<Ruuk> something else...
* Bubu|JAT| is all ears
<Ruuk> this is really getting crazy, prolly, but i'm a creative person and can't stop myself...
<Bubu|JAT|> hehe
<Ruuk> i was thinking about someone with broadband connection...
<Ruuk> could really get a cool intro to the site...
<Ruuk> by having an avi...
<Ruuk> that starts off just like the movies...
<Ruuk> music, STAR WARS fading off into the distance...
<Bubu|JAT|> lol yeah that would be cool... we need someone who can do that though... does undead have the know-how?
<Ruuk> and then some text scrolling up...i'll copy what i wrote in here for you...
<Ruuk> hold on...
<Bubu|JAT|> k
<Ruuk> yes...apparantly he does...also acey-spadey can do this too.
<Ruuk> hold please...
<Bubu|JAT|> cool
<Bubu|JAT|> please hold the line.... *elevator music*
<Ruuk> here goes...
<Bubu|JAT|> :)
<Ruuk> STAR WARS
<Ruuk> THE JEDI ACADEMY
<Ruuk> It is a period of great turmoil. Hopelessly traversing vast distances of the galaxy, the Student finds infrequent the special learning environment needed to hone the skills... Those skills necessary to become one of the Galaxy's most revered inhabitants: the Jedi Knight. World after world, system after system are searched and rejected as unworthy, unhealthy, and immoral. With few options left, the Student desperately turns to a stranger for help, and discovers what may be the last refuge of learning the ways of the Force. An ancient, powerful place recently reinhabited - Yavin-5; the location of the new Jedi Academy...
<Bubu|JAT|> ...
<LordExarKun|JAK> omg, gotta reboot, sry :/
* LordExarKun|JAK has quit IRC (Quit)
<Bubu|JAT|> this is basically a 1on1 meeting :)
<Ruuk> lol
<Ruuk> whaddayathink?
<Ruuk> this would be in gold, scrolling upwards...
<Bubu|JAT|> all i got was
<Ruuk> whoops.
<Bubu|JAT|> <Ruuk> here goes...
<Bubu|JAT|> [00:23] <Ruuk> STAR WARS
<Bubu|JAT|> [00:23] <Ruuk> THE JEDI ACADEMY
<Ruuk> shit/.
<Bubu|JAT|> lol
<Ruuk> ok, let me break it down.
<Ruuk> It is a period of great turmoil. Hopelessly traversing vast distances of the galaxy, the Student finds infrequent the special learning environment needed to hone the skills...
<Bubu|JAT|> too big... :)
<Ruuk> get that>
<Bubu|JAT|> yep
<Bubu|JAT|> so far so good
<Ruuk> k. more coming...
<Bubu|JAT|> k
<Ruuk> Those skills necessary to become one of the Galaxy's most revered inhabitants: the Jedi Knight. World after world, system after system are searched and rejected as unworthy, unhealthy, and immoral.
<Ruuk> ?
<Bubu|JAT|> yep..
<Ruuk> more...
<Ruuk> With few options left, the Student desperately turns to a stranger for help, and discovers what may be the last refuge of learning the ways of the Force. An ancient, powerful place recently reinhabited - Yavin-5; the location of the new Jedi Academy...
<Ruuk> done.
<Bubu|JAT|> i like it
<Ruuk> thanx
<Ruuk> after you read this scrolling up...
<Bubu|JAT|> so that would be star wars style scrolling gold text ya?
<Ruuk> yeah.
<Bubu|JAT|> col
<Ruuk> with space in the background.
<Ruuk> stars...
<Ruuk> you pan down...
<Bubu|JAT|> yep
<Ruuk> and you see this huge cargo/transport ship
<Ruuk> undead says he can zoom up to it to look like we're getting closer to it...
<Bubu|JAT|> yeah and then...
<Ruuk> oh, and there's yavin-5 down to the left
<Ruuk> ship is on right side of screen.
<Bubu|JAT|> :) of course.. hehe
<Ruuk> then, you get closer until...
<Ruuk> pop
<Ruuk> you enter the ship.
<Ruuk> there are two people standing there.
<Ruuk> i'd like some text...
<Bubu|JAT|> yes
<Bubu|JAT|> lol
<Ruuk> of them talking to one another...
<Bubu|JAT|> uh huh
<Ruuk> something like, "are you sure you really want to do this?"
<Ruuk> father son, father/daughter, whatever.
<Bubu|JAT|> suspense... :)
<Ruuk> yeah
<Ruuk> and you can imagine the rest.
<Bubu|JAT|> ye
<Ruuk> not too long.
<Bubu|JAT|> yes
<Bubu|JAT|> i can
<Bubu|JAT|> but
<Bubu|JAT|> you sure we can do this?
<Bubu|JAT|> it sounds hard
<Ruuk> i have absolutely no idea.
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* L sets mode: +o LordExarKun|JAK
<Ruuk> lol!
<Bubu|JAT|> lol
<LordExarKun|JAK> back
<Ruuk> cewl
<Bubu|JAT|> ideas are cool.. but if we can't implement them.. they are nothing :)
<Bubu|JAT|> wb
<Ruuk> well, good point...
<Ruuk> undead said he could do something like this.
<Ruuk> maybe he was fulla crap!
<Bubu|JAT|> but if undead is sure he can do this... it would be awesome
<Bubu|JAT|> lol
<Bubu|JAT|> maybe
<Ruuk> but i dunno.
<Ruuk> let me finish this idea, and we can move on...
<Bubu|JAT|> well
<Bubu|JAT|> ok
<Ruuk> this shuttle or something leaves the transport ship, heads for the planet
<Ruuk> next you see the ja courtyard.
<Ruuk> lotta people congregating around.
<Bubu|JAT|> i copy
<Ruuk> doobie, dj, most of the jac, etc.
<Bubu|JAT|> lol yeah
<Ruuk> then doobie or dj welcomes you to the ja
<Ruuk> bleah, bleah, bleah...
<Ruuk> and then...
<Ruuk> you step forward and offer your hand to...
<Ruuk> give a tour.
<Ruuk> that's where your tour comes in.
<Bubu|JAT|> coooooool
<Ruuk> *end transmission*
<Bubu|JAT|> loo
<Bubu|JAT|> l
<Bubu|JAT|> gah stupid kboard
<Bubu|JAT|> sounds good
<Bubu|JAT|> if it can be done
<Ruuk> again, may not work...
<Ruuk> but would be sooooooooooooo cool if we could do it.
<Bubu|JAT|> yes it would be awesome
<Ruuk> i know some people really like to do avi stuff...so...
<Ruuk> maybe we could get it done.
<Bubu|JAT|> maybe we can find someone at the JA.. if undead cant do it
<Ruuk> but it's not _that_ important.
<Bubu|JAT|> yeah
<Ruuk> acey-spadey or him, yeah.
<Ruuk> ok.
<Bubu|JAT|> yep
<Ruuk> anyway...moving on...
<Ruuk> exar...you still there?
<Bubu|JAT|> hehe as i said, 1on1 meeting
<Ruuk> yep.
<Ruuk> oh well.
<Ruuk> ok, well...
<Bubu|JAT|> well
<Ruuk> let me just add a few more thoughts in general, and then i don't want to take up too much more of your time...
<Bubu|JAT|> lol ok
<Ruuk> oops!
<Ruuk> i have what mos wanted me to input...
<Ruuk> and b-billy, and icco.
<Bubu|JAT|> ohh cool
<Ruuk> want to see it? or irrelevant since we don't have many people here?
<Bubu|JAT|> well
<Bubu|JAT|> you can send it to me by mail or something.. but no need to post in here
<Ruuk> k
<Ruuk> will do.
<Bubu|JAT|> ok :)
<Ruuk> let me say a few more things, and we should get outta here, i guess.
<Bubu|JAT|> ok
<Bubu|JAT|> shoot
<Ruuk> i'd like to get this thing done within the next 2 weeks or so.
<Ruuk> both myself and mos are concerned that interest might be waning...
<Ruuk> and i'd like to get the first version out asap.
<Bubu|JAT|> yeah
<Ruuk> mos had a concern about inclusion of the ja yearbook and other things that may not be quite relevant...
<Bubu|JAT|> that would be good
<Ruuk> at least not right now.
<Ruuk> should we, in your opinion, limit it.
<Ruuk> and keep the other things on the back burner for inclusion later.
<Bubu|JAT|> i don't think the year book should be in it if that's what you're asking
<Ruuk> no?
<Bubu|JAT|> not now anyway
<Ruuk> k
<Bubu|JAT|> maybe later as an appendiz
<Bubu|JAT|> doh
<Bubu|JAT|> appendix
<Ruuk> gotcha.
<Ruuk> hey...
<Ruuk> you think some peeps might be on ja-project?
<Bubu|JAT|> uh oh
<Bubu|JAT|> let's see
<Bubu|JAT|> nope nobody there
<Ruuk> k
<Ruuk> good.
<Ruuk> just wanted to cover the bases.
<Ruuk> i'm not sure what i need to do...
<Bubu|JAT|> just motivate ppl i htink
<Ruuk> mail people alarm clocks?
<Bubu|JAT|> think*
<Bubu|JAT|> haha
<Bubu|JAT|> maybe
<Ruuk> i'm trying, Ubub, i'm trying!
<Ruuk> :)
<Bubu|JAT|> hehe
<Bubu|JAT|> i know
<Ruuk> that's my primary job...
<Ruuk> coordination and motivation.
<Ruuk> from the very beginning.
<Bubu|JAT|> yep
<Ruuk> arse-kicker.
<Ruuk> ok, well, tell you what.
<Bubu|JAT|> some people have good ideas but don't carry them out.. as you said.. waning interest
<Ruuk> yep
<Ruuk> i'm gonna...
<Bubu|JAT|> tell me what
<Ruuk> put out a final call...
<Ruuk> on the threads...
<Ruuk> for those to complete their work soon...
<Ruuk> or it won't get included in the Holocron.
<Bubu|JAT|> wooo
<Ruuk> we'll release 70%
<Bubu|JAT|> drastic measures
<Bubu|JAT|> hehe
<Ruuk> not 100%
<Ruuk> those who want their section included, need to get it _done_.
<Bubu|JAT|> yarr
<Ruuk> when they get it done, we'll put it in the next installment.
<Ruuk> whenever _that_ will be.
<Ruuk> a month, or whatever.
<Bubu|JAT|> i hear ya
<Bubu|JAT|> sounds good
<Ruuk> i'm sure we'll get a lotta bitchin from members of JA...
<Bubu|JAT|> yes we will
<Ruuk> "why didn't you include this? why didn't you include that?"
<Ruuk> well, hell! i've tried to bring ya all on board! what else am i supposed to do?!?
<Ruuk> lol
<Bubu|JAT|> lol
<Bubu|JAT|> yeah
<Ruuk> so...
<LordExarKun|JAK> damn, sry for not being here guys
<Ruuk> you think a deadline is acceptible.
<Ruuk> ?
<Bubu|JAT|> yes i think
<LordExarKun|JAK> yes it is
<Ruuk> thas ok...at least you were _here_.
<Ruuk> ok.
<Bubu|JAT|> hehe
<LordExarKun|JAK> coz else this will take years
<Ruuk> you got it.
<Ruuk> exar, go ahead and copy this whole thing and read what bubu and i have been talking about...
<Ruuk> i don't wanna waste everyone's time typing it again...of course.
<Bubu|JAT|> yeah that would be coolness :)
<Ruuk> but, main point is...
<Ruuk> this thing is going out in 2 weeks whether people like it or not.
<Bubu|JAT|> yep
<Ruuk> do i have both your support on that?
<LordExarKun|JAK> um, i had a log, but i reconnected :(
<Ruuk> k.
<Ruuk> oh, that's right.
<Ruuk> ok.
<LordExarKun|JAK> yeah ruuk, you have my support
<Ruuk> i'll copy it for you.
<LordExarKun|JAK> definetely
<Bubu|JAT|> yes for sure
<Ruuk> thanx.
<Ruuk> i'll make a copy of this whole thing, and...hmmm...post it in the forum?
<Ruuk> what do you think?
<LordExarKun|JAK> now I unfortunately have to go, diner
<Ruuk> k later!
<LordExarKun|JAK> myeah, post it
<LordExarKun|JAK> later
<Ruuk> bubu?
<Bubu|JAT|> yes do that
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<Ruuk> ok
<Ruuk> will do.
<Ruuk> do you have any questions for me right now>?
<Bubu|JAT|> nope
<Ruuk> ok.
<Ruuk> well, i want to thank you _very_ much for taking the time out of your day to be here.
<Ruuk> appreciate your committment.
<Bubu|JAT|> nah
<Bubu|JAT|> it's cool
<Bubu|JAT|> i enjoy it :)
<Ruuk> :)
<Ruuk> well, thanx anyway.
<Bubu|JAT|> k :)
<Ruuk> ok, i'll end transmission and post this thing.
<Ruuk> will talk to you later. k?
<Ruuk> *end transmission*

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May 20 2003 01:28am

Ruuk Haviser
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 Ruuk Haviser

np.

-rh
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May 19 2003 05:17am

Icco
 - Student
 Icco

i was no where near civilization sry. if it wasnt for u and we had it last week i would have come. sry. yeah...tis your fault... i like the sound of that....

new motto: Its not my fault!

lol j/k i was away for my mommies bday sry :(
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May 19 2003 01:26am

Ruuk Haviser
 - Retired
 Ruuk Haviser

Exactly, Bubu. Exar, we want this to be a little more interactive so it will indeed be linked to the JA. Each section will have a page of its own linked to a table of contents.

MoS, you told me you weren't going to be there and gave me an update of what was going on, so that was to be expected. Paintball...frankly, I don't blame you!

As for you other guys...:mad:...nah, just kidding. ;) Hey: nobody died, right? Let's just make sure we keep the ball rolling for the next 2 weeks and get a chance to see the _result_ of our work.

-rh
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May 18 2003 02:39pm

Bubu
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 Bubu

it will be part of the JA website. an additional link on the left. that is when DJ gets around to putting it in.
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May 18 2003 11:48am

Lord Exar Kun
 - Student
 Lord Exar Kun

it'll be released like the yearbook, a pdf document in book-form. slap me if I'm wrong
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May 18 2003 11:31am

Cyb
 - Student
 Cyb

Hmm... I thought I could come actually as the only thing I was going to do was going to the matrix at 9.30 but that one was sold out so we had to go to the early movie... anyways I thought enough ppl would come coz in the first meeting me and 4/5 others were there and this one was announced much earlier... well, not that ya could of used my help too much anyway but this was just a one on one conversation :(
But anyways... About the little amount of things that were said in the meeting I dont have much to add to it... only that I agree with the release but how are you going to release it? a website? a big document? or...?
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May 18 2003 06:18am

MINDofSIN
 - Student
 MINDofSIN

Well, I ditched you all for paintball. But not just any paintball, oh no. I got to play for the first time in about 5 months AND test out my new gun.

So...I felt bad at first, then I played and would have sold the entire Academy for another case of paint, and now I'm back to feeling kinda bad.

Thank you to everyone who did show up.

Also, Ruuk, I'm glad that you agree we need to get things done fast. Making a Version 1 deadline was a wise idea.

If anyone needs help with their sections, get it!


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May 17 2003 08:45pm

niten
 - Student
 niten

my apologies, ruuk :\

i got caught up in some things this morning and wasn't able to make it. i'm still waiting on getting the word back on my 1st edits from underhill. i'm glad you like them, but was hoping i could get input from the other editor before i move forward.... would like to meet the 2 week deadline. i haven't lost the interest to follow through with the edits!

keep me posted! :)


May 17 2003 08:30pm

Mune
 - Student
 Mune

I'm really sorry, Ruuk. I don't think I have to see another movie at the theatre for a while, so I should be able to be able to attend any future meetings. Thanks for the transcript!:)
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May 17 2003 07:17pm

Lord Exar Kun
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 Lord Exar Kun

lol. and yes guys, you only see me saying two things, but I thought mapping was more interesting when no1 showed up, there wasnt much to discuss anyway. next time show up please!
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May 17 2003 06:34pm

Ruuk Haviser
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 Ruuk Haviser

*smacks Aeth upside the head* :)

It's ok. I'll survive. :D

-rh
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May 17 2003 05:38pm

Aeth S'kray
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 Aeth S'kray

Argh, I'm so sorry Ruuk. I forgot it. I put it in my calendar, but as I did nothing today but relaxing I didnt look in my calendar today :( *shames*

Edit: I even thought about the meeting when I went to bed on friday... but it was actually already saturday :o
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This comment was edited by Aeth S'kray on May 17 2003 07:04pm.

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