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The Purpose of Life
Jun 21 2005 11:17pm

Cash Warren
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Hi, this is my first post, I'm a newbie here at the Jedi Academy.

For years I've read and wondered about life and the purposes behind it. I'm a firm believer of evolutionary premises as I believe that to be fact and religion to be faith. So if you're a super religious person that wishes to start a fight, don't bother coming here. I wanted to know what everyone thinks is the purpose of life. As some of you might have read, the universe was supposedly created by a "Big bang". Although you might think of it as just a big sort of "boom", it's not quite that.

So basically speaking, I was just wondering what you all thought the purpose of life was.

Please make this intelligent thought as well. Although I like debating, don't start this into a dumbass festival.
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This post was edited by Cash Warren on Jun 21 2005 11:34pm.

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Jun 23 2005 06:40pm

Serra Keto
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Egg

Its what i've decided after doing Theo for a year.

EGG!
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Jun 23 2005 05:44pm

solitude
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_, I was referring to the comment made by Krazzed, I want this to be intelligent thought, if you have something completely unrelated to the subject to say, then I suggest you go find the right subject to your topic.


and i was off topic how?
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Jun 23 2005 05:38pm

Kenyon
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 Kenyon

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Funny how you'll beleive one source, but not another, and your telling me not to beleive everything you read. Nice.


Actually, I got the list from here. Nice to see yours matches up with mine though. Never assume. :)

And back to the topic we go!

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Jun 23 2005 05:21pm

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
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 DaRtH-MoBiLiTy

Right Kenyon, we all know you got your list from Here.

Funny how you'll beleive one source, but not another, and your telling me not to beleive everything you read. Nice.

I did check into my source. It was actually speaking about the year of 2004, sorry. It also was the number one hard cover nonfiction book of 2003 according to this report. I apologize for reporting wrong, however the facts about that book are as follows:

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The Purpose Driven Life has now sold more than any other book this year, 7 million so far, and was named “Book of The Year” July, 2003. 40 Days of Purpose is now being done in corporations (Coke Headquarters, Sparrow Records, etc) schools, prisons, NASCAR, LPGA, the Oakland Raiders, and all kinds of places besides churches.

“It will hit 10 million copies sold by the end of December and has been on the New York Times hardback bestsellers longer than any other book this year (40 weeks)” It has now sold over 20 million.


The point of my post was just to say that this book helped me out a lot along with millions of other people. And if it can work for all us millions, it might work for you. :)

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Jun 23 2005 10:14am

SaZ
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 SaZ

my purpose of life is to dedicate myself to rodians lololol
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Jun 23 2005 08:51am

Kenyon
 - Lord of the Dance
 Kenyon

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Good Question Equation. I have asked this question myself. I found the answer in this book, which happens to be the number two most sold book in history, right underneath the Bible.


At the risk of going off-topic, I feel the need to correct this. The Bible is indeed the most sold book ever. Right underneath the Bible is Mao Tse-tung's Little Red Book. Underneath that is the American Spelling Book by Noah Webster. After that we have the famous Guinness Book of Records. The book Moby mentioned isn't even in the top ten.

Don't believe everything you read. ;)

Jun 23 2005 05:11am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

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Oh man...this thread is going to draw some grade-A nutcases! I can feel it. :P

I don't think there is a purpose of life. You get born, you live, you die. Humans have glorified existance way too much. That's my honest opinion.

I have a feeling I'm going to get some angry people on my back for saying that.


I agree. This is all opinion of course. I'm not stating that what I say here is FACT. It is simply my belief.

I think humans make too much of themselves. A human life is a hick-up in time. A Blink in an almost infinite life time. Important to us yes, but to time amd space and existance? No. Here we are on our little planet in the middle of no where. Alone for all that we know(I dont think we are but thats a different thread.) We run around everyday worried about meterial things. Some dedicate their lives to WORK WORK WORK. Some to PLAY PLAY PLAY, and most in between. We have GOD's to make us fell less Isolated. To comfort us from the possible fact that we may have been a rare biological anomoly. An extremely complex evolved species. So we think.

There is no meaning to life. It just is. Just the way Existance, exists. Some things have no answers. There are no questions. It just simply IS.

Life has no meaning for me. I just am. What will I do in this life? What ever I want. If I want to do it, I will, if I don't, then I won't. I'll live to live. Not live to better someone elses existance. Eccept for my family when I have one. I'll Never let anyone back me into a corner. I'll walk my own path. I'll grow older, hopfully wiser. I will die. I might be remembers for ages. I might be forgotten within generations. Is that meaningless?
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Jun 23 2005 02:36am

Trooper!
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There is a newer theory opposite the big bang called steady state theory. The thought that all elements of the universe were always here and always in motion. Because what happened before that big bang?
I think that the purpose of life is experience. You see in the spirit world where everything exists as pure energy there can be no such thing as evil because nothing can be taken, owned or destroyed (to name a few). These things can only be experienced through the process of life in the physical world. Once we learn those things we can begin to get beyond them and reach some form of enlightenment.
But then again the purpose of life could be cookies I mean why else would they be so darned good? :D
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Jun 23 2005 12:51am

Thomasooo
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 Thomasooo

Perhaps there is no answer at all to this question, because it is totally irrelevant and won't cause the human race to prosper if answered.

I believe that if an answer was found (which I do not think will happen), everyone on Earth would start struggling to fulfill that purpose, instead of making up their own mind about what the purpose of life is, thus making the peoples of this planet less diverse.

Some questions should be left unanswered...
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Jun 23 2005 12:00am

solitude
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 solitude

[quotw]With all of our knowledge and studies, we haven't one shread of evidence or proof backing up the theory of evolution. Also from what I have heard, (not studies and I will say I am somewhat ignorant towards these), the ideas of evolution and billions of years of existance are flawed ideas.

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Please make this intelligent thought as well. Although I like debating, don't start this into a dumbass festival.


if you're planning on making statements like that, back them up. stating that 'there is no proof' or 'i have heard' means nothing. give us some hard evidence for these statements please.

as for my beliefs on the purpose of life?

i swing between 2 things:

-when i believe that all is predetermined...life is meaningless

-when i believe that there is freewill, the objective is to do as you will. and yes, i do mean do whatever you want. including murde, rape and pillage. you just have to accept the consequences of your actions.
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Jun 22 2005 10:39pm

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
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 DaRtH-MoBiLiTy

Good Question Equation. I have asked this question myself. I found the answer in this book, which happens to be the number two most sold book in history, right underneath the Bible.

And as far as the whole big bang goes, I have studied this as well. Found my factual, scientific answers here regarding that matter. Cool to have that whole book online.

Cheers, :)
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Jun 22 2005 05:57pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

the purpose of life is to live.

I'm quite sure on that actually :)
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Jun 22 2005 03:13pm

angel
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 angel

i belive that life is about becomming ready for the day that you die so when you die you will have done all you want to and have no regreds
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Jun 22 2005 02:10pm

Phantom
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 Phantom

My reiligon tells me that the purpose of life it to serve G-d and do His mitzvot and follow His Torah.
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Jun 22 2005 01:33pm

Jacen Aratan
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Purpose of life is to make one's life the best possible. It's all about the self. And then we die.


Jun 22 2005 01:03pm

Bubu
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 Bubu

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With all of our knowledge and studies, we haven't one shread of evidence or proof backing up the theory of evolution. Also from what I have heard, (not studies and I will say I am somewhat ignorant towards these), the ideas of evolution and billions of years of existance are flawed ideas.


Alright. I'm not going to emphasize anything you said in there, just quoting it should be enough.

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... which would suggest that the world has only existed for several thousands of years.


There are a miriad different things I could say in response, but I will just ask you how you would explain the countless of artifacts in existence on this world (fossils and what not), which by carbon dating (and other equally valid methods), have been proven to be millions of years old.

Now don't take this as an attack on your faith. As you said, "food for thought".

And as for my views about life, Kenyon and Thomas pretty much covered what I would say. :)

Oh and also, 42.
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Jun 22 2005 10:01am

xAnAtOs
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I don't believe in a set 'purpose' in life. You decide what you want to do. Who is to tell you that your purpose in life is to kill thousands of people for a religion? Who is to tell you that your purpose is to crash a plane into a city? Who is to tell you that your purpose in life is to help others? To become a doctor? To rid the world of AIDS?

The world holds too many expectations for any individual. If not the world in a collective state, then some minority group, or even a family will tell you what you must do and how to live your life.
"Go to college and get a degree and get a fancy job and earn lots of money. (and then maybe I will leech off of you for my retirement fund)"

Who is to tell you that you must use all the money you have earnt to help the sick, deprived and homeless? Who is to stop you from spending your week's earnings on a computer that will eventually take you farther away from the life outside of the INTERNET?



Your life is what you make it.

If you feel that it is for you to help, then help. If it is to search the skies and formulate complicated formulas and later develop technologies one could barely even fathom at this point in time, then do so.

If you feel like wasting the precious time that you have, go for it. Just don't say I told you so. ;)
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Jun 22 2005 09:31am

Kenyon
 - Lord of the Dance
 Kenyon

I wouldn't say our existence is overrated. I think mankind has some delusions of grandeur by taking the center spotlight in some divine beings' master plan, though. The universe is really big, and I'm sure there's life somewhere else. There's a big chance we'll never be able to reach out - maybe the distance is too large, maybe they lived a hundred billion years ago or haven't evolved yet.

Our entire existence, not just our civilization, is just the blink of an eye in galactic history. But I suppose we have to make the best of it - we're pretty fragile. A comet could come and smash the planet, we could kill eachother with weapons of mass destruction, we could ruin the environment and kill ourselves in the process - there's a million reasons to die, and only a few to live. I think, in our vulnerable position, it's our responsibility to stick our face up to the heavens and say "hey, we're still here!".

Of course, viewing the human lifespan in the grand scheme of things can be a bit depressing. How many of us looked up at the sky and said "What about me?" and you could just imagine the universe looking back down at you and replying: "Well, what about you?". It's pretty lonely. I believe in a force that drives and determines a lot of things in our universe - the Tao, if you will. I just don't believe in some man with a beard and a great book (figuratively speaking of course) that points down at you and says "do it, or else". It's the need for a father figure, a guiding force.

In the end, I can't help but feel there's some kind of spiritual bond between myself and the rest of life on Earth - not just your neighbour, but your cat, or the trees. There's something that just makes me want to say "there's gotta be more".

Jun 22 2005 09:04am

O'Liin Onasi
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 O'Liin Onasi

Well I am very religous in by my upbringing,but as all of humanity tends to do,we each find our own path.Truthfully (and I dont mean to start any thing, but just to pose a counter point as I do quite well.:D)when Has fact ever meant much to anyone.In my experience the situations that are fact based,tend to be an everyday occurance.We are worn to it,,,we are weathered to it, and these occurances tend not to be milestones in anyone's life.Faith,however, in anything,tends to be what milestones are made of.
Sometimes we as humans need to stray from fact,and follow a path of not what we know can happen, but what we believe can happen.As I said earlier I mean not to press my beliefs on anyone ,but to pose a counter point, so the people themselves can decide.But anyway,faith can be a powerful thing ,through it ordinary people have done extrordinary things.Mothers who lift cars of their children,fathers who give their lives in war to protect a belief.A belief that our founding fathers died to protect, faith in an ideal to be free from the bonds of opression , but by that I do not mean racism or bigomy,I mean the opression from within,the opression that we feed in ourselves.But now I believe in God,and I choose to serve him,and by God I have been given a wisdom set apart form conventional wisdom,this is just my opinion.So in short, I believe the meaning of life is to have faith in
what so ever we choose to place it.:)


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Jun 22 2005 08:35am

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 Masta

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I don't think there is a purpose of life. You get born, you live, you die. Humans have glorified existance way too much. That's my honest opinion.

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Jun 22 2005 08:17am

Koyi Donita
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I don't believe myself to be super religious as you say because I don't feel as if I've been saved yet in my faith. I study the Bible and am a pretty firm believer in it's teachings. I don't believe in evolution or the big bang theory. With all of our knowledge and studies, we haven't one shread of evidence or proof backing up the theory of evolution. Also from what I have heard, (not studies and I will say I am somewhat ignorant towards these), the ideas of evolution and billions of years of existance are flawed ideas. I've heard that the sun is constantly shrinking and given the estimated constant rate that it is, if the world had been in existance for billions of years it would have been inside the sun at some point and wouldn't have been in existance at all. Also, with running water we all know the way water errodes banks, beaches, mountains, valleys, canyons, etc.. Well, certain levels of certain minerals can be found within' the ocean waters of the world and with studies and measurements taken, if the world was billions of years old then some minerals would have reached the super saturated condition within our water by now. In fact, minerals within the waters are pretty low which would suggest that the world has only existed for several thousands of years. Maybe the ice age did something to these facts and maybe it didn't. I don't know but just food for thought.

I believe that the meaning of life is for man to worship God. We find man of all nationalities reaching out for gods all over the world and it puzzles me how many have. It is true that maybe it's just human nature for man to act this way and thus a reason why so many from all over the world have reached, but I question why it would be human nature for that type of action. Especially with humans being as self absorbed as most are I find it hard to believe that pure human nature would be the driving force for humans to reach out for something that they can't see, touch, or taste.

Again, these are just my opinions, things that I have heard, and just food for thought. I know the arguement between faith and science can just keep going on and on and on and that's not my intention here. I'm just stating what I feel and giving some reasons why. I don't want to fight or is it my intention to put anyone on edge or up in arms. :) I'm interested in what some of the more learned think about the meaning of life and their beliefs/faiths. :D
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Jun 22 2005 01:33am

Thomasooo
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 Thomasooo

Oh man...this thread is going to draw some grade-A nutcases! I can feel it. :P

I don't think there is a purpose of life. You get born, you live, you die. Humans have glorified existance way too much. That's my honest opinion.

I have a feeling I'm going to get some angry people on my back for saying that.
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Jun 21 2005 11:34pm

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 Krazzed

yes:P
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Jun 21 2005 11:33pm

Cash Warren
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No.
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Jun 21 2005 11:32pm

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 Krazzed

to watch star wars!!!!!!
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