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Z�diac Grimclaw "Z�diac Grimclaw"
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May 18 2009 03:21pm

solitude
 - Jedi Council
 solitude

Zodiac has been banned for the following reasons:

#1 He was given a warning for downloading trial documents, distributing them and lying about his involvement.

#2 He was warned for exploiting the site to read and post in restricted areas.

#3 Zodiac was removed from staff following the above, as we were unable to trust him.

#4 After the above warnings, Zodiac exploited the same site vulnerability to read and post in restricted areas again.

Zodiac was warned and ignore the warnings - This is why he was banned.

I realise that others might have found security vulnerabilities, if you do find a fault with the site code, please just report it so we can fix it - you will not be banned or warned for this.

Zodiac was warned and banned for exploiting vulnerabilities after being told not to. Rather than report the issues, he choose to exploit them for his own personal gain. This will not be tolerated.

/solitude
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This comment was edited by solitude on May 18 2009 03:28pm.


Nov 30 2010 08:41pm

joker
 - Ex-Student

*All are Officialy Warned*

Fear now!

Sep 12 2010 11:22pm

planK
 - Jedi Council
 planK

I GOT A FEVAH.

AND THE ONLY PRESCRIPTION.

IS MORE COWBELL.

Mar 29 2010 02:30pm

Hugo
 - Student
 Hugo

:cool::cool::cool:

pwnd

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This comment was edited by Hugo on Apr 24 2010 09:49pm.

Jul 16 2009 04:00am

Hardwired
 - Retired
 Hardwired

This debate has been going on for far too long now. Discussing something that is this old, and which involves a person who can not themselves respond, serves no purpose whatsoever.

From now and henceforth there will be no posting on this profile of any kind. Consider it closed.

Anyone wishing to discuss this matter between themselves will do so in private.
Any views that is to be expressed to the Council may go through the regular channels in private.

Any further posting will result in an official warning, without exception.

Case closed. Move along.

- HW
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This comment was edited by Hardwired on Jul 29 2009 06:25am.

Jul 15 2009 04:45pm

Legion Mstr Grimclaw
 - Student

And So The New Epic Posting War Rages On


and i still think this is pretty dumb to continue

zodiac didnt spread the info and i dont really believe he wants to come back under Sol's rule

this shoudl have been pretty much figured out already seriously
But hey keep fighting it looks funny
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Jul 15 2009 07:42am

Kaldør
 - Student
 Kaldør

Why are you making it out to seem like he tried to spread all sorts of private info around and damage the whole system here?

He posted in an admin-only area after being warned a few times. Is this problem fixed? No. Is it easy for anyone to figure out? Yes.

The "fact" that he spread info around about the trials is utter bs as far as I am concerned. He found it, downloaded it, and then he deleted it after realizing what it was.

Don't go around listening to whatever the administration says just because they are in charge.

@ Zeke: The trials are still secret; he told no one, and still has not.

It shames me to see that an active and helpful member of this community was treated so harshly and now being targeted by other students as being some untrustworthy prick who wants to ruin everything. If you have problems with him, take it up personally with him instead of posting it on a site behind his back in which he has no access to.

Thank you.

Edit: I wouldn't be surprised if I get a warning for posting this for going against the perfect admins here. Sorry, just needed to speak the truth and attempt to set things right.

This comment was edited by Kaldør on Jul 15 2009 07:43am.

Jul 09 2009 01:31am

Cloud Senatu
 - Student
 Cloud Senatu

Quote:
Hardly, it compromises the security for the maps for the trials and defeats the idea of the trials being undertaken a secret.

They're secret for a reason, if people could practice for them then it would defeat the point behind it altogether.

They've been secret for so long, a bit sad really.


Exactly the point why he was banned. Zeke said it perfectly.

Zodiac threatened the way of how this entire place works, on getting new Jedi Knights, and new Jedi Instructors. They couldn't allow people who would give out such information to have access, and when they warned him, he continued to do it. Which showed dishonor.

Jun 04 2009 10:48pm

Kaldør
 - Student
 Kaldør

Quote:
I can't believe Zodiac would do such a thing :/ You'll be missed mate, but hopefully this will teach you a lesson about doing such actions, as you now know what will happen.

I hope that in time, you will learn from this, and take steps back and actually work against these previous actions.


I still do not think it is as bad as it was made out to be :(

Jun 04 2009 10:26pm

Cloud Senatu
 - Student
 Cloud Senatu

I can't believe Zodiac would do such a thing :/ You'll be missed mate, but hopefully this will teach you a lesson about doing such actions, as you now know what will happen.

I hope that in time, you will learn from this, and take steps back and actually work against these previous actions.

Jun 02 2009 05:06am

Kaldør
 - Student
 Kaldør

Quote:
HE WAS WORKING FOR TEH CHEWBAXORZ.


May 31 2009 01:15pm

planK
 - Jedi Council
 planK

HE WAS WORKING FOR TEH CHEWBAXORZ.

May 31 2009 07:34am

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

he will probably get unbanned some day. a lot of members did in the past...
however, the key rule for that was that those members stopped their evil doings, growed up, chilled out etc.
as much as i love zodiac i think he is still burning too much about all this.

id also like to make a note about certain misunderstandings here.
a lot of english words (especially those written in official style) may sound a little different for us foreigners. for example word 'distribution' sounds as if its a very massive thing lol when its just simply 'giving something to one or more (not neccesarily tho) people' (wink wink)
this and many other simmilar things make communication between both parties a little confusing...
and yes.. everything would have been much more quiet in this case as well if everyone knew english perfectly... OR if JAK+ made their points in a little more casual way. the later one is not always possible tho... well actually... both of them lol
and yes i made countless mistakes in this post as well lol
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This comment was edited by SaZ on May 31 2009 07:42am.

May 30 2009 04:57am

The Killer 9000
 - Student
 The Killer 9000

i cant beleive this, i never would have thought he wold have done anything to get himself banned. this is so out of left field, its too bad, ill miss him.
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May 28 2009 09:54pm

Kaldør
 - Student
 Kaldør

Of course he sneaked back in; he misses this place. This ban is far too heavy.

May 28 2009 09:25pm

solitude
 - Jedi Council
 solitude

Quote:
Are there any plans on letting Zodiac back in? It sucks without him here.


Due to Zodiac sneaking back onto the server multiple times after his ban, there are no plans to review this.

I would also like to make it explicitly clear (if in some way my newspost failed to), that the distribution of passwords in any way at all (especially to banned members), is strictly prohibited.
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Owner Of Virtue's 1000th profile comment, Mr. Doobie's 1000th profile comment, Gradius' 2500th comment, xAnAtOs' 2500th comment, Rosered's 1500th comment, Laziana's 900th comment, Scythus' 500th comment and Echuu's 100th comment


May 28 2009 03:55pm

Kaldør
 - Student
 Kaldør

Are there any plans on letting Zodiac back in? It sucks without him here.

May 22 2009 06:18pm

Everon
 - Student
 Everon

A shame, curiosity killed the cat.
Take care mate.

May 19 2009 11:17pm

Silya Beedoess
 - Student
 Silya Beedoess

Hello do you think you can help me? I need to know how to connect to servers before entering a class.:)
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May 18 2009 11:53pm

Hugo
 - Student
 Hugo

LET'S START A FIGHT!!! DRAMA!! RAWRRR!!!
I'll be Chuck Norris!

:P

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May 18 2009 08:18pm

Killernecromancer
 - Student

Zodiac has asked me to post this to you.

Ok, first of all, chill ppl :) Its not like Im killed or anything. Anyways, figured there is pretty too much drama at my profile and I think certain things should be cleared up first before actualy proceding forward. Since Ive heard that the logs have been majorly leaked, I guess there is no use of keeping it a secert.
I am going to write the story in simple facts and moments:
- I found the trial documents
-I did not inform the JAC about what Ive found ( stupid me... )
-I told 1 person about it, which was proven not involed in this, meaning that I did not actualy directly leak the document ( dont bash me for the definition of leak. I think something must be DIRECTLY leaked to be actualy leaked)
-I got cought redhanded
-I was demoted
-I found loop holes in the site, I informed the JAC about them, they prommised to fix them, thats why the staff lost their powers for 24 hours at some time earlier
-I used the exploit ( i should have used common sence more )
-I got banned
Simple as that. So, the question will be why am I writing this ? Simple, cuz of simple mistakes made in my told stories in different times, which were influenced by the lack of information I had about my situation at those moments, thats why many of the things Ive told some of you are wrong and just too early to had been said. But what made me kinda itching to write this, was Sols permanent message to the public, describing me as super criminal of the century :) So yeah, in my useless defence I am commenting Sols comment to end this fiasco and clear things up :)

Quote:
Zodiac has been banned for the following reasons:


Quote:
#1 He was given a warning for downloading trial documents, distributing them and lying about his involvement.

Yes I have been warned about them. Moving on, what do you mean by disturbing them ? If you mean leaking then you clearly didint choose the right words my friend :) And ah yes, the lying part, I would like to know WHICH PART EXACTLY I lied in. Seriously, its like you are just looking for excuses to flame me which is not cool dude ;P I mean, if you think I was the one who massivly leaked the files ( i know this becuz i have heard things ), you are sadly mistaken. As far as I understand, the JAC decided that I DID NOT LEAK THE FILES TO ANYONE EXCPET ... that one person ( he was found innocent, thus not involved in this ). IF you think otherwise, Im suggesting another private chat to discuss this, becuz Im thinking that being honest to ya is just no enought now....

Quote:
#4 After the above warnings, Zodiac exploited the same site vulnerability to read and post in restricted areas again.

Common sence got the better of me ;)
Quote:
Zodiac was warned and banned for exploiting vulnerabilities after being told not to. Rather than report the issues, he choose to exploit them for his own personal gain. This will not be tolerated.

Seriously, stop making stuff about me ;P makes me sound like a criminal. What I mean, I WARNED THE JAC ABOUT THE SITE ISSUES. Yes, you hear me right, I did, and you know, this is the reason why I decided to write this little letter, seeing as you cannot face true facts or tell the public the truth. If you dont believe me, fine, I even have the conversation logs which actualy proove that I reported the security issue first ;P

I DO NOT WANT TO START A FIRE/FLAME/BASH WAR HERE, I am just here to tell you that everything is ok. Even while sol is lying about certain things about me, he and all the JAC are completely right to ban me and I dont have anything against that, cuz I really should have seen that coming. So yeah Sol, please do not bash me for your own oppinion if you dont have any proof against me in the things Ive listed above. Just becuz your files were leaked, doesnt mean I am guilty of it. The common law says that Guilty until proven, and since I know that I did not start the massive leak, I am 100% sure you have no proof againt me in that one. Thats if im actualy accused of the massive leak, if not, sry, then Im just clueless as always :) Still, I would like to know the exact parts I have lied about ok ?

Anyways, and all the others, plz dont fight over me :/ makes me look like im trying to fight the JAC which has no reason what so ever. I mean, I am guilty of what is prooven against me and I know that, and thats how it is :) All this defence is cool and I apreaciate that, but I really dont want to be remembered as the guy who refused face the facts. Nothing is gonna bring me back and nothing will :) Best thing is to just let this all go and imagine this all never happened
Anyways, as a last note to the authorities that will read this, please do not consider this a counterattack. I am just merely saying how things happened and what things should be fixed. I trully hope you will accept this message maturely and rationaly without any bashes, deletes or other stuff which Im afraid might happen. So yeah, lets bury the hatchet cuz I honestly dont see any point of taking this any further, especialy when the issue is kinda resolved now :) No hard feelings
PS: sorry for my creepy typo
Zodiac Grimcaw, saying: Ur mother lol! ( this is an inside joke if anyone gets offended)


This comment was edited by Killernecromancer on May 18 2009 08:19pm.

May 18 2009 04:59pm

Dark D'Kana
 - Student
 Dark D'Kana

Sorry to see you go Zodiac, you were a big help to me when I started and a good friend since :(

You will be missed

- Dark
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Padawan of Jaina D'Kana Owner of Kain Sol's 400th and Zantus's 500th comment

May 18 2009 04:18pm

ZantuS
 - Student
 ZantuS

According to what Zod has told me himself, solitude is right. But that "personal gain" sounds too bad, he did it because of his curiosity. Whether that is a thing to be banned for or not, it's up to the JAK+ to decide. Let it be known that his intention was never to harm the place! And yeah, it's a big shame not having him around anymore. Curiosity killed the cat.:(
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May 18 2009 02:10pm

Killernecromancer
 - Student

I might not be one that knows most about this. But if the person that was banned in question says he was NEVER given a warning. How can you possibly say he was given one?

If you are so scared of Zodiac giving out information which shouldnt be given out, What would a ban help with?

Now this last reply of yours was full of bad things about Zodiac, Are you trying to say Zodiac was an unreasonable bastard?

If you are trying to prove your right like that. Then I have nothing more to say about it.

Further information would help anyone, It would help everyone.
As now it seems like what you said in your permanent post was not true at all. From what I've heard from the guy in question.

You may have dropped the Subject, But I haven't.

-Killernecro.

May 18 2009 03:30am

Kaldør
 - Student
 Kaldør

This is horrible that it had to come to this. Why was he banned for finding that stuff? He didn't kill anyone.

He was a good, active, friendly and helpful member of the JA. Banning him is getting no one anywhere; it's just going to cause discontentment among his friends here. He tried his best to make people happy and to be friendly to all the new people, and to teach them. He made people want to be active.

What happens? You ban him? Nice job =/

Also, I never heard anything from Zod about these previous warnings. What is this now?

I am not happy with the way this was handled.. seems a bit juvenile to be quite honest.

-Kaldr Grimclaw, Brother to Zdiac Grimclaw

May 17 2009 07:16pm

Killernecromancer
 - Student

Wow....

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