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Ian Jandos - Student  |
I started playing this genre with JK3. I've had people suggest that I play Outcast, and my curiousity gave in, so I started from the beginning. My friend had the original Dark Forces and having watched most of that, I deemed my memory sufficient enough to want to skip that title. So I started with DF2/JK w/the Sith missions. It didn't run ideal, nor were the graphics stellar, but I played it through. Interesting stuff...the most different of them all I'd say. The sabering was very rudimentary and unwieldy I might add. However, the skill was still essentially based on timing. I thought the real life video was kind of cool. The slain/ghost jedi was somewhat interesting. Adding Mara Jade was also kind of neat. The bad guys however, were pretty cheesy, regardless of the graphics. I moved up the ladder to Outcast. I played the game through and was very pleased. Very true to Star Wars themes. The story was good and I appreciated seeing the Jedi Temple...things here at the JA now make visually more sense to me. I feel that this game was way tougher than JK3 in terms of the single player game. I have played JK3 through twice on the toughest setting without too much trouble. This game wasn't near as easy. The beginning missions without the saber were particularly rough. The Nar Shadaa levels with all the Rodian snipers made me turn on "god" mode. After aquired the saber, I was much easier to kick butt. The reborns (sithspit  ) were tougher than the average JK3 sith, but seemed more prone to being pulled.Lando was a wimp of a fighter, but was a nice cameo and it was cool to hear Billy Dee as the voice actor   The boss at the end I had to use "god" mode to kill. If anyone here has done it without doing so, please let me know how you did it. I didn't have use of absorb, so it was a tough assignment. Overall, the game was very good, I would have liked to have seen some information on the Mara character, as a follow-up from JK1. In comparison of the single person game, I liked JK3 much better. It has more diverse enemies, geographies, and missions. You can also pilot an occasional vehicle, something that would have proved very advantageous in Outcast. In favor of Outcast, I'd say its a tougher play and the dark jedi are a bit better. Regardless, I am happy to have played them all now and hopefully they'll come out with another title. -Ian _______________ Member #7625 | Since 7.6.04 The Archives This post was edited by Ian Jandos on Sep 05 2005 10:12pm. |
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tarpman - The Tarped Avenger 
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Quote: Plus, he's probably the biggest force whore there is, his powers seem way beyond what you have, even on full force powers. So yea, just a few axes and he should be dead. That's closer to the truth than you might know... according to the JK2 and JKA source code, NPCs defined as CLASS_DESANN, CLASS_LUKE, and CLASS_YODA (not that any NPCs of CLASS_YODA exist in the actual games o_O) have hardcoded uber-hax0red unblockable Push and Pull. I think Desann's Lightning was modded in this way too. And of course NPCs have effectively unlimited force (not sure how it works, I think it keeps track of how much they have but doesn't worry about whether they've run out or not  ).And I must say that my favorite way of beating him is to drop the pillar on him. It's just so... cheap. Simple, but tricky to pull off.  _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. This comment was edited by tarpman on Sep 17 2005 02:54am. |
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Quote: I beat Desann on hardest, no cheats, simply by being cheap and running away until I could be invincible for a few more seconds. Anyone beaten him by actually fighting like a man? Yea dude. It's all about fighting like a coward, hit and run, hit and run. You get too close to him for a second too long, he lunges you out of nowhere. Plus, he's probably the biggest force whore there is, his powers seem way beyond what you have, even on full force powers. So yea, just a few axes and he should be dead. _______________ Brother to Luke Skywalker and (SKX) Dark Blade
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<Henkes> nebody feeling like abusing me with a lightsaber?|+Smilykrazy grabs Gradius, beats the living CRAP out of him, then throws him into a huge vat of ACID |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: Heh. Way back when, when JK2 first came out, everybody I knew who had gotten outcast was racing to see who could kill Desann first. We had all gotten to the fight, it was just none of us could actually beat him. Yeah, he's a really tough guy to beat without cheating. Yes, it's possible. I did it. (Go me! )The thingie with the panels and the beam has something to do with it-- I never bothered to figure that out. Besides that, just go in intending for a long fight, not a quick one, and change your tactics suitably. For example, if there's a small opening, it's better to hold back and heal yourself than to rush in and do a little damage, getting yourself even more hurt in return. Focus on staying alive first, killing him second, and not vice versa. It'll require a lot of patience, but it will pay off eventually. lol yeah desann was tough... ive beaten the game recently with my new gaming skills and well... he was easy _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Carve - Student 
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My friend did an rdfa off the ledge and killed Desann in one hit. _______________ © |
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tarpman - The Tarped Avenger
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I beat Desann on hardest, no cheats, simply by being cheap and running away until I could be invincible for a few more seconds. Anyone beaten him by actually fighting like a man? _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. |
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xAnAtOs - Student |
Yep, i beat desann in jk2 on hardest setting, no cheats. But yea, i think jk1's sp campaign was the best overall. _______________ Brother to Luke Skywalker and (SKX) Dark Blade
Lag Brother to Acey Spadey
Jools is my best friend.
<Henkes> nebody feeling like abusing me with a lightsaber?|+Smilykrazy grabs Gradius, beats the living CRAP out of him, then throws him into a huge vat of ACID |
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Carve - Student 
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I agree with most of your points but I felt the level design was far better than either Jedi Outcast or Jedi Academy. The level design alone makes me prefer JK1's single player of the three. _______________ © |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student 
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Desann is basically Barney with a drug problem and a lightsaber. Tavion can't eyeshadow to save her life. Alora, well Aiddat kinda made the point. Rosh just needs a slap. Desann: I love you, you love me we're one.....ah you know what, I'm going to go have rehab. Screw taking over tha galaxy. _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
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AvaloN - Student 
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Quote: I think they made the JO and JA bad guys lame to make you dislike them. Desann - HE'S A PURPLE DINOSAUR! Tavion - She's just weird. Alora - Not so bad, but her cap makes her look like she works at a fast food restraunt. Rosh - He's arrogant, but sometimes wimpy when he's really in danger. And it looks like he uses glue for hair gel. rofl. |
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Aiddat - Student 
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I think they made the JO and JA bad guys lame to make you dislike them. Desann - HE'S A PURPLE DINOSAUR! Tavion - She's just weird. Alora - Not so bad, but her cap makes her look like she works at a fast food restraunt. Rosh - He's arrogant, but sometimes wimpy when he's really in danger. And it looks like he uses glue for hair gel. _______________ -Aiddat, the Gran with the green blades. "You have a right to be angry, but believe me when I say you don't want to feed that emotion." - Kyle Katarn {Owner of Liso Jowol's 550th comment, Conchris Chaotic's 80th, 150th and 350th comments, Pink Floyd's 200th comment Tyrant's 695th comment, D@RTHM@UL's 10600th comment}, accidentally tricked Pink Floyd into giving me his 1700th comment, I also have Alexander D'Kana's 1950th comment, Mindrith Pride's 1850th comment and I used the same accidental trick on Lewis's 100th comment, and I have Aiddat's 1992nd comment (birthyear), and #Elmo's 450th comment. Unsuccessfully tried to prove Senor Hat's theory wrong. Click for screenshots. Padawan of R2-D2. |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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If you push all the panels and jump into the beam youll be invincible for a certain amount of time. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Kano - Student 
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i've managed to complete all the jk games on hard without cheats and its not easy its all about timing and movement to dodge attacks etc took me a while to do it so if ur going to try it good luck _______________ Is back and badder then ever |
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Trad Redav - Student 
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Heh. Way back when, when JK2 first came out, everybody I knew who had gotten outcast was racing to see who could kill Desann first. We had all gotten to the fight, it was just none of us could actually beat him. Yeah, he's a really tough guy to beat without cheating. Yes, it's possible. I did it. (Go me! ) The thingie with the panels and the beam has something to do with it-- I never bothered to figure that out. Besides that, just go in intending for a long fight, not a quick one, and change your tactics suitably. For example, if there's a small opening, it's better to hold back and heal yourself than to rush in and do a little damage, getting yourself even more hurt in return. Focus on staying alive first, killing him second, and not vice versa. It'll require a lot of patience, but it will pay off eventually. _______________ Well then. Just so you know, just because I don't post often doesn't mean I don't lurk this place multiple times every day... |
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Buzz - Student 
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More on Mara Jade _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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Congratulations! This comment was edited by Setementor on Sep 05 2005 10:15pm. |
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