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To those who want to sign an application -Aron - May 09 02:51pm

If you are not yet a student of the Jedi Academy and want to sign up:

I will no longer process application that I feel have not been filled in the way they should be.

If you want to be a part of this community, you can at least take the time to fill in the fields that tell us if you are even worth of joining the Academy.

So, if you have had your application denied, or have not received a reply on it in the last couple of weeks, I suggest you sign a new one, and fill in as much fields as possible.

EDIT:

More of an addition/explanation:

The acceptance of an application is not solely based on "filling the fields". In first instance, we compare some statistics to the records we have from ex-students. If we notice it is a (partly) match, we look at other fields, which means applications that do not have a lot of information are prone to being denied.

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May 10 2005 02:25pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

It doesn't sound very inviting, anyway.

May 10 2005 01:05am

tarpman
 - The Tarped Avenger
 tarpman

I have to agree with cmad solely on the point that using the term "worthy" makes you seem *very* elitist. Just a momentary lapse of judgement, I'm sure. Still <3 you Aron. :)
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May 09 2005 09:48pm

Squibit
 - Student
 Squibit

So rather than looking for a "good" reply, as long as the reply is not "bad" then its ok ?

Ok, thats cool then :)
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May 09 2005 07:20pm

 
 - Student

I think you guys are reading into what Aron said just a LITTLE tad too much. :P

From my understanding, Aron, by "JA worthy" meant people who apply without showing any clear intent of causing a significant amount of trouble.

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Also I expect someone who was banned could easily make a convincing forgery of an application, but maybe not.


Usually this is checked by factors such as IP addresses, hostmasks, email accounts, etc. It isn't full proof, but it works most of the time, I guess.

May 09 2005 07:16pm

Squibit
 - Student
 Squibit

Quote:
What do you feel you can add to the Academy? Is there anything you'd like us to know about you? Leave any other comments here as well.


Just wondering would this be a valid entry?

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Im not sure what I can add to the academy. Probably not much as I rarly come online and have almost no skills in the JK games. Thats kinda why I wanted to join. Nothing special you need to know about me, i'm just an occational gamer, think starwars movies are pretty cool and this site looked quite interesting.


Would that be sufficient? If so it may as well have been left blank, not much said there really. If not, well. I know i wouldn't be here for one.

Is it non-sense messages you are trying to avoid, or just blankness (word?)

I'd have to agree with cmad on the "worthy" to be in the JA.
I always liked the way ANYBODY can join the JA, won't last long if they're complete idiots who just mess about all the time, but they can join.

Also I expect someone who was banned could easily make a convincing forgery of an application, but maybe not.
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This comment was edited by Squibit on May 09 2005 07:18pm.

May 09 2005 07:02pm

_cmad_
 - Ex-Student
 _cmad_

Last post from me:

"Stop acting like you know how many applicants we actually process" :: I never said something like that. Stop jumping to wrong conclusions.

Using the phrase "not JA worthy" without further explanation in front page news is, at least, absurd. That's what I meant with "Relax"; partly.

I'm going away now, as there's no further point in this discussion. Bye.
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May 09 2005 06:28pm

CuZzA
 - Student
 CuZzA

9 posts made by 2 people...rofl
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May 09 2005 06:21pm

 
 - Student

Although i'm sure alot of people are going to disagree with me, and i'm sure Aron's going to get a little bit of flak for what he just said, I agree with him on that point. It goes to show that he, and the other JAC's, are prioritising the well-being of the JA's existing members, instead of recruiting new ones, by insuring that the naughty monkeys that got kicked out are kept out, making everyone elses JA experience as pleasant as possible. :D

w00t!

May 09 2005 06:17pm

Aron
 - Retired
 Aron

Something I forgat to add.

The main reason for this is actually the following:

We have a *LOT* of members, and also a *LOT* of ex-members we like to keep out. They are spread over hundreds of ISP's which makes it VERY hard to keep track of them. The problem with a lot of common ISP's is the fact that they have about 100 hundred banned members on them. If I see an application I can not be 100% sure about, and I see it has not even been filled in seriously, I prefer to delete it, rather than to accept it and take the risk.

Bottom line: the more information you supply, the more likely you will be accepted.

May 09 2005 06:12pm

 
 - Student

Maybe you shouldn't assume so much. I care about the JA, and I feel strongly about the way people are introduced into the JA. I'm sorry i'm not a yes-man. :P

May 09 2005 06:10pm

Buzz
 - Student
 Buzz

Mike quit playing devil's advocate
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May 09 2005 06:08pm

 
 - Student

Well, I agree that the "what you can add" field should be filled out, just for the sake of judging the person's interest. I suggest that field, and only that field, be added to the application requirements. (Edit: Although, to be fair, what could the possibly contribute in this field when they haven't even joined yet? :P)

However, as far as your theory of "they should leave the internet" goes, I don't think that's particularly fair. Some people just want to come here to play a video game without the hassle that people generally get on public servers. Nobody is obliged to hand out this information, nor should they be. I believe this is why these fields are optional.

Also, while I agree with your point about false information, I find it strange when somebody was made a JAK when they did the exact same thing - claimed to be from Japan, but had an American hostmask. :P

This comment was edited by   on May 09 2005 06:09pm.

May 09 2005 06:03pm

Aron
 - Retired
 Aron

This post was mainly directed at the 'what can you add' field.

Supplying that information is in no way an invasion of privacy.

If people feel it is, they should leave the internet.

As for real names, I could not care less. Same with location; except if a false one is supplied.
IE: if someone fills in he's from Tokyo while his hostmask says .uk, his application will be most likely denied.

If he leaves it blank, he would have a larger chance of getting through.

This comment was edited by Aron on May 09 2005 06:04pm.

May 09 2005 05:53pm

 
 - Student

You've got a point about the "if you're not around" part, but unlike cmad, I understand how many applicants you get, but I also understand that people may not understand what will actually be done with the information they fill out, and as such, may not fill it out and wait for their acceptance to see what they should do. See what i'm getting at here?

I think the application is just fine as it is. We have something close to 2000 active members, I believe... obviously, not everyone signs up and forgets about the JA.

Edit: Another point. What if people don't want to give out their real name, or contact information? What if they don't want people to know what they do for a living? What if they simply don't want to supply the information that, although asked for, isn't required?

This comment was edited by   on May 09 2005 05:58pm.

May 09 2005 05:47pm

Aron
 - Retired
 Aron

They are not required at the MOMENT.

But if it's up to me, they will be.

Stop acting like you know how many applicants we actually process that turn out to be random visitors that radidly sign a form and never visit again.

Especially if you're not even around.

May 09 2005 04:52pm

 
 - Student

cmad raises a good point. Are you referring to required fields that aren't being filled out, or the extra stuff that's being left blank? If it's the latter, I think you need your head checked. :P

May 09 2005 04:03pm

_cmad_
 - Ex-Student
 _cmad_

Although I've quit, I couldn't help it:

1) That's what required fields are for.
2) "worth of joining the Academy". Yeah, right; nice one. Relax.

* leaves the scene once again *

Don't bother to reply directly to me, as I'll probably not read it. Reply to the Academy public, instead,
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May 09 2005 03:48pm

Dacascos
 - Lowly Urchin
 Dacascos

If you ask me, you're overdoing it atm, but hey. Who am I.
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May 09 2005 03:21pm

Khâ D'Kana
 - Student
 Khâ D'Kana

Good Job.

People not correctly filling the form aren't so interested by us as a "respectfull" community. So it's good to let them reflect about it ;)

-Kh D'Kana
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May 09 2005 03:08pm

Lian Del Rey
 - Student
 Lian Del Rey

People don't write in all the fields?
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