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Time for the Anarchy to stop -Aron - Mar 30 07:39am |
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That's right. Anarchy with a capital A. Lately, we have have had WAY too many reports about password leaking, laming on the servers, swearing, disbehaving, NPC abuse, guns abuse, and all kinds of other lameness. It's time for you people (you know who you are) to start behaving. The Academy staff is known to be pretty "nice" with rulebreakers, even if some of you might disagree with that. In any other community, a lot of offenses that take place here are rewarded with a permanent ban on the spot. Apparently, that's the only way for some people to start noticing we are serious here. So you can see this pretty much as a final warning. In the coming period, the staff will have their eyes open even more than usual, and will pay "special attention" to people breaking the rules. Punishments will no longer be in the "amsleep category". So basically: knock it off, or be banned. |
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Ed Hunter - Student 
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I think you sholdn't attack anyone without a reason. IF you dare you should be quite sure that A) that's not against the rules B) the person(s) you attack doesn't (don't) mind it C) it's a FFA _______________ "Iron Maiden`s gonna get ya no matter how far!!!"- Steve Harris Friend of Piccolo (proud owner of his 300th comment  )
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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LOL! Yeah, you totally went bezerk on that Squib. Okay, so, no, it's not a rule that you must ask permission from everyone in the server before you start a FFA, I did not say that. I said you should announce to everyone in the server that you are doing it, so they don't walk into a room and get chopped in half no knowing it was a FFA. Same thing with power duels, you don't have to ask permission, just be sure to announce it so there isn't any confusion. And once again, no, you don't have to ask permission to take place in a FFA. But you should make sure that there is indeed a FFA taking place before you jump in on it. It's a matter of common sense basically. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Squibit - Student 
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I agree, but back to the original point. If you "join in FFAs" without asking if you can join in, how do you know if it is an FFA or not? If I wanted to do a 2 vs 1 duel (power duel). I would have to seek permission from the whole server before hand ? That doesn't seem right. I didn't think it was included in... Quote: Any extraordinary activity (such as FFA, roleplaying, king of the hill, etc.) involving guns or other agressive actions outside the gun area or any other rule violation Seen as it: A) Does not involve guns and B) Does not involve any other rule-violations. Hence, assuming 2 vs 1 is allowed. How can you be sure its a FFA and not 2vs1 or 2 vs 2 or even 1v1v1v1 4-way duel? Infact If you didn't know it was a FFA or not, It MUST not be a FFA due to the fact you didn't know about it. Because if it WAS a FFA then you MUST be told about it... So the moral of that confusing paragraph is, don't take part in FFAs.... hmmm, i think my logic went wrong somewhere  EDIT: ahha, the moral is Yes you should ask to join in what "APPREARS" to be a FFA Yes i am going to bed now, ill fix this post in the morning in neccersary, but i think i managed to make sense _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once 
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Gradius - Ex-Student
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Quote: What if it seems like an ffa. I don't think that's against the rules? YES it IS against the rules to "Join in" an FFA without asking Actually, that's not entirely true. If there's a FFA going on, anyone is more than welcome to join it, that's what a FFA is. However, before starting any FFA, you must first make sure it's in a room not being used by anyone else, and then announce it to the server that it is taking place in that room. If anyone joins the server during this FFA, you must announce that a FFA is going on in the specified room, to prevent any confusion. Other than that, anyone is allowed to join in without asking. You can't limit a FFA to certain people, that's not only rude but disrespectful to others who may want to join in. Let's say you are doing a power duel with 2 other buddies in another room. It will seem like a FFA to people who don't know any better. Once again, announce it to the server or anyone who joins, to prevent confusion. So yeah, it's not against the rules to join in on a FFA without asking. It's "against the rules" to start a FFA without letting the rest of the server know. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Squibit - Student
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Hmm think you misunderstood me... I was saying that they SHOULD ask, not that they shouldn't The reason i quoted you was because it sounded as though the reason you ask is to "avoid these kind of things" and else where implied that not all members should do this... I guess this is the quote i should have made... Quote: What if it seems like an ffa. I don't think that's against the rules? YES it IS against the rules to "Join in" an FFA without asking, Quote: should ever be ignored, no matter what the circumstances. I would never ignore it, you would never ignore it, most people in the JA would never ignore it... But a new member who just join and possibly doesn't quite undestand all the rules fully may ignore minor rule breaking of two "oldbies" and this is perfectly allowed, acceptable and in no-way breaking any rule... Thats why I included the alternative of ignoring it instead of "joining in". Best action to take - Ask if everything is ok, assist, Worst action to take - Join in with the rule breaking ACCEPTABLE action to take - Stand aside and ignore it. Thats all i was trying to say. _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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Quote: I always ask if it's an FFA, or not, but that's because of these kinds of things. Learned through error, you might say. No! No attacking without permission of the target, its in the rules. If you THINK there is a FFA and lame someone , its your fault. ALWAYS ask before attacking someone. Even if you think its a FFA Erm, if you ask if it's an FFA, and they say no: then A) it's against the rules, so you've got rights to tell them to stop or B) they say yes, which means you can join, ... not saying I join without first asking if I could join of course. Quote: the amount of times a 4-way duel has been runied because someone just assumed it was a FFA is insane. Therefore it should be asked first, whether it's an FFA or not. Quote: They should ignore it, or ask the victims if they are ok with being killed. I didn't ignore the second part, but I don't believe that bad things happening on a server should ever be ignored, no matter what the circumstances. If you even think that something bad is happening, I think you should at least ask if it's all in good fun or not ... Just my view of course. _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Laming your buddies would be cool if it was just you and your buddies on the server. If there's people that don't realise you guys are friends, then they're going to think either "LAMER!" or "FFA!". Either way, it'll cause trouble. Best thing to do is keep that kind of activity off the JA servers. I know I will be. |
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Squibit - Student 
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Quote: and what if you get reported for 'cutting in line' in that case? I can actually see that happen, to be honest Well, firstly before reporting you should probably check to make sure your view of the situation is correct. In this case they should ask you to allow them to have thier place back before reporting anything. To which I would explain that they didn't do anything after the duel for at least half a minute so i assumed they went afk. Quote: I always ask if it's an FFA, or not, but that's because of these kinds of things. Learned through error, you might say. No! No attacking without permission of the target, its in the rules. If you THINK there is a FFA and lame someone , its your fault. ALWAYS ask before attacking someone. Even if you think its a FFA the amount of times a 4-way duel has been runied because someone just assumed it was a FFA is insane. Quote: I can honestly see a lot of people disagreeing with this, and I'm one of them. Do you also ignore rule-breakers? Didn't think so either. Way to quote half a line bro... the full line was... Quote: They should ignore it, or ask the victims if they are ok with being killed. _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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Quote: it's hard to keep track of who's next when you stand on the benches. Specially when some persons standing there just want to spec. Pfft, Piece of cake, unless theres more than about 5 people. If you're not sure, just wait... if noone walks forward because they think it's their turn THEN go and what if you get reported for 'cutting in line' in that case? I can actually see that happen, to be honest Quote: The prolem I think is that there are some "higher lvl"/well known players that come in and lame ppl. Maybe newer members see this and think its ok. totally Bingo! Quote: If a newer player sees someone breaking the rules and "joins in" then it's thier fault completly. What if it seems like an ffa. I don't think that's against the rules? A new member could honestly say 'Oh yes, they are FFA'ing. That's my favourite.' And just join in. I always ask if it's an FFA, or not, but that's because of these kinds of things. Learned through error, you might say. They'll need to learn it the hard way too, in that case. Ask before joining. Mmm, that should be pressed onto new members perhaps. Quote: They should ignore it, I can honestly see a lot of people disagreeing with this, and I'm one of them. Do you also ignore rule-breakers? Didn't think so either. _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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SaZ - Student 
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well squib virtue and other ranked ppl will complain about your posts end. coz of... dont lame ppl(even friends) coz thats example for others what to do O_o but i agree with you _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Squibit - Student
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Quote: it seems that waiting inline to duel on the servers has taken many forms. on wireplay people stand on the side platforms and then run and eek out the slower people. Ok I have been away for a few days but im going to assume this situation has not changed from when i was there last... Keyword was seems, I know from when i have been there that even though there is not "Line" that people are stood in people remember who entered the room and when. If i enter the room and see three others on the benches when i jump up, im not going to run in and challenge until they have all had the chance to do so... If they all sort of mill around and stand there after the duel has ended then sure i'll go up and challenge "out of turn" but theres no point just standing around waiting. I'll wander slowly up to the guy on the mat, bow a couple of times, look around and then challege, If no one has bothered to move after all that time then they probably don't want to duel. Like wise, If im on the mat and win a duel I wont just let any body rush into the room challenge me and duel me. I'd either politly explain that someone else has been waiting to duel and offer a duel to the person who was next in line. Alternativly I will accept the duel and move to a different room. Quote: isn't that what common sense is for? To be honost when I see people fighting for spots I challenge somebody else go to another matrix and have fun there, most of the time things seem to be Bingo! Quote: it's hard to keep track of who's next when you stand on the benches. Specially when some persons standing there just want to spec. Pfft, Piece of cake, unless theres more than about 5 people. If you're not sure, just wait... if noone walks forward because they think it's their turn THEN go Quote: The prolem I think is that there are some "higher lvl"/well known players that come in and lame ppl. Maybe newer members see this and think its ok. again Pfft, I charge into a matrix and Lame tiger claw / Roan etc. all the time. They expect it, don't mind and usualy lame me back. It's fun to do to friends sometimes. As long as you know they don't mind there isnt a problem. Obvioucly I wouldn't lame roan if he was in the middle of a duel or training someone or having a conversation etc. If your sensible with your "lameing" then it can be ok. IF the person you are "laming" doesn't mind and finds it fun then it really can't be called lamming in the first place. If it bothered my friends im sure they'd let me know, i'd applogise and never do it again. It's possible they could report it and i'd be banned but they are friends so generaly they wouldn't. If a newer player sees someone breaking the rules and "joins in" then it's thier fault completly. They know the rules (or should do) aswell as anyone else. They should ignore it, or ask the victims if they are ok with being killed. and move on. If one of my mates killed me, a newbie killed a random person and my mate got banned or what ever other punishment for "laming" me when i completly don't mind, infront of a new member i'd be very upset. Obvoicly all IMO _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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never*_->(Zero) - Student 
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yay nicely said _______________ 0(..)0 (__) lol. |
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tarpman - The Tarped Avenger 
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I said *when I AM on*. But yeah. Don't worry, that'll be changing sometime in the next half hour. Things take soooo long to compile when you're waiting for them.  _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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Because you haven't been on very much? |
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tarpman - The Tarped Avenger
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How come I never notice any of this stuff happening when I'm on?  _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. |
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MOTREC IS A F'ING GENIUS KTHX |
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Rosie - Student 
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I agree with motrec, it's hard to keep track of who's next when you stand on the benches. Specially when some persons standing there just want to spec. It ends with the fastest one up on the mat = next duelist. HURRAY FOR LINES IN FRONT OF THE MAT! *yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaw* |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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It's time to kick some Greifer butt!  _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Tallepyon - Student 
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I hate to see this happen, but I had a feeling some action like this would be coming soon |
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SaZ - Student
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well its quite difficult to be in 'line' if you are on bench. its either benches only so you could track ppl whos turn is now or only Line . cant be both :/ well on benches the main problem was when someone tried push or grip on players who come on bench _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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DJK - Student 
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Quote: It's not "forbidden" to sit or stand on the benches... that's what they are there for. MOTREC's point was that people that sit overthere and see a line near the mat should not jump in, and by that, totally ignore the line. I never said or implied that it should be forbidden to sit or stand on the benches. My point was that those who wanted to duel should stand in the line, and not jump into the duel ring and challenge. as you well pointed out yourself. |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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The biggest prob I've seen is ( for me at least) is people deciding their gonna duel in a room that being used already. Or firing weapons at u when ur duelin. Some laming but not too much. The prolem I think is that there are some "higher lvl"/well known players that come in and lame ppl. Maybe newer members see this and think its ok. I'm no Knight but...set an example M8! _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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Aron - Retired 
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It's not "forbidden" to sit or stand on the benches... that's what they are there for. MOTREC's point was that people that sit overthere and see a line near the mat should not jump in, and by that, totally ignore the line. You probably won't be banned for this (unless this is a pile-up of events), but you certainly won't gain much respect from it, and * DO * risk getting some...well... negative attention from JAK+. |
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DJK - Student 
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About the waiting in line thing. As long as I have been on wireplay, people who want to duel allways stand in line and those who wants to look sit on the benches. and thats really how it should be. But thats just my opinion. |
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Nero - Student 
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isn't that what common sense is for? To be honost when I see people fighting for spots I challenge somebody else go to another matrix and have fun there, most of the time things seem to be getting along fine and everybody gets turns... _______________ -Nero Quote: Curious, Smartass, what else? |
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