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Get out and vote tomorrow! -DJ Sith - Nov 02 03:18am |
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Here's a friendly reminder to those of you who are US citizens of voting age: your vote counts! Voting for the candidate you believe in can never be a "wasted vote". * I want to see comments on this post tomorrow saying that you went out and fufilled your civic duties! This is a big election, and we need everyone's opinion on it so please hit those polls tomorrow! We now return you to your Jedi Academy already in progress... * A message for you in those states that lean heavily toward a particular candidate.  |
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Buzz - Student 
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That seems better than the punch card ballots too you know. If you accidentally punch the wrong hole in then you need to get a new card and start all over. I'm surprised all the junk punch cards haven't been dug up before claiming that they are uncounted votes thrown away by "insert political party/conspiracy here" to commit voter fraud. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Quote: Herrera said she's heard stories from Democrats and Republicans. Doesn't sound too conspiratorial to me. Sounds like human error. This is the biggest non-story of the election season. Quote: people can alter the selections on their ballots, up to the point when they indicate they are finished and officially cast the ballot. So, voter checks the wrong box, fixes it, then when it finally reads as he wants he clicks "Okay." Maybe it takes him a couple tries to fix it. Human error? Or screen glitch? This is the silliest conspiracy theory I have ever heard. If it were the conspiracy Plo is trying to make it, then the screen would display properly, but the software would register the vote how the conspirators wanted, and nobody would be the wiser. It would have to be the ultimate inside job, too, as all the software engineers who worked on the machines would have to be in on the conspiracy, as would the entire test team and all of their project leads and managers, pretty much the whole company. Not believable. And the conspiracy theory assumes that these ingenious conspirators nonetheless thought it would be a good idea for the machine to display their trickery on the screen for the voters to see! Think about this. Just think, that's all I ask. Plus, these machines are rigorously tested by auditors once the engineers no longer have access to them--if the machines didn't tally the votes the way they're supposed to, one party or the other would cry foul. Duh. I didn't see anything at all in the article about Plo's claim that "it took computer engineers to come in and fix it after hours." Where did you get that, Plo? What I did see was that the voters who checked the wrong box fixed it themselves and then complained. The Democrats have to come up with these stories every time they get busted with a crack-for-voter-registration scheme. My personal favorite is Franklin county, right here in Ohio. Think you can get 90% of all the people 18 years old or older to register to vote? 99%? 100% even? The Democrats have done better than that in Franklin: There are 30,000 more registered voters in Franklin than there are adults in the whole county! Wow! When Republicans challenge these registrations, of course, they're accused of "intimidating voters," though how a fictitious person could be intimidated by anyone is beyond me. Letters sent to 37,000 voters to confirm their identities were returned undeliverable--no such address, yet most of them will stay on the voter rolls, and you better believe somebody will cast those votes. Now I have no doubt that there are some dishonest people in both parties. But the touch-screen conspiracy theory is just plain silly. I find it unsurprising that the woman who thought this a plausible theory had difficulty getting it to check the correct box. Kinda goes with the territory. (The county where I grew up was staunchly, overwhelmingly Republican, though I was not at the time. I knew a history teacher there who was himself as Conservative a Republican stalwart as ever you could meet...and every election he voted for one Communist. He said he wanted to know if the election judges were honest, and sure enough, election after election, he'd see exactly one vote for a Communist show up in the county results.) _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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Quote: One thing I saw on the news, when people where using the new kind of voting system and went to click on Kerry,it selected Bush and it took computer engineers to come in and fix it after hours...I quote the woman "I hope this was just a compter malfunction,...other than something more devious". Got a link for that? Its true i saw it in the newspaper too  yeah and Jacen gave a link to it too... just a sec Edit: Okay, here we go... not sure if it's authentic though, not really at home with such sites: http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/31/1744254&tid=226&tid=103 _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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DJK - Student 
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Quote: One thing I saw on the news, when people where using the new kind of voting system and went to click on Kerry,it selected Bush and it took computer engineers to come in and fix it after hours...I quote the woman "I hope this was just a compter malfunction,...other than something more devious". Got a link for that? Its true i saw it in the newspaper too |
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Cloaked Thunder - Student 
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I voted. YAY me. Go Bush!!! Nice victory. _______________ Padawan of ShadowSith | Close JA Family: Darth Mobility, Katan, Jedi Prodigy, Virtue,D@rth M@ul, Virtue, Flash, Bandit, Yin Yang, JK-XIII, Faded, Silk Monkey, Skyler, `Orion, Aratan, SmilyKrazy, Faded Angel, and your mom  | woot!
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thedestroyer - Student 
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Yay Bush won(Gorge W. Bush) .Kerry got his but kicked wich is awsome to me . |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Quote: One thing I saw on the news, when people where using the new kind of voting system and went to click on Kerry,it selected Bush and it took computer engineers to come in and fix it after hours...I quote the woman "I hope this was just a compter malfunction,...other than something more devious". Got a link for that? _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Tido - Student 
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Voted yesterday . |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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One thing I saw on the news, when people where using the new kind of voting system and went to click on Kerry,it selected Bush and it took computer engineers to come in and fix it after hours...I quote the woman "I hope this was just a compter malfunction,...other than something more devious". _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Nov 03 2004 09:18am. |
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JavaGuy - Student
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Wish I'd seen this thread earlier. Polls are long closed now. Sith, when we punch a ballot we do indeed vote for a candidate, but you are correct in that, for the Presidential race only, it's slightly more complicated in theory. I'll write up a thread on the electoral college some time. I'd like to point out something about the "wasted vote" thing... A lot of people in non-swing states don't bother to vote. After all, in the all-or-none system of electoral votes for each states, it doesn't make much sense to vote if you know your guy will lose in your state (if that's the only race you're interested in). Nor does it make much sense for a lot of people to vote if they know their guy will win whether they vote or not. In fact, historically voter turnouts have been high in states where it's close (I live in Ohio, and believe me it's been an exciting day here). But if you're not in a swing state, and if there is absolutely no doubt about which Presidential candidate will carry all your state's electoral votes whether you turn out or not, there are still two important reasons for you to vote anyway: 1. If your guy wins in the electoral college, it helps legitimize his Presidency if he also wins the popular vote nationwide. In 2000 lots of Bush supporters didn't bother to vote in Texas, for example, because the outcome there was never in doubt. But the result was that he lost the popular vote nationwide. 2. If your guy wins in the electoral college but loses the popular vote, you'll hear about it non-stop for the next four years! So get out and vote even if you're in a non-swing state. Too bad I didn't see this yesterday. But this advice will still apply four years from now. Oh, one more thing...Ignore the polls. Ignore the polls. Ignore the polls. All the exit polls were calling this election for Kerry all day. Guess what? Exit polls being horsecrap is not a new thing but a long-standing historical trend. They've never been a good predictor. Your magic 8-ball is more reliable. Remember that four years from now too, and don't let your candidate's standing in the exit polls (or any other poll) influence your decision to vote or not. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Ashyr - Student 
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I wish I was old enough to vote. :/ _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan |
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Janus - Retired 
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Voted, done. _______________ Be honorable, be friendly, be trustworthy. Show respect to all whom you meet. Don't forget you learn when you win AND when you lose. Be the first to admit mistake AND the first to correct it. Be the shoulder for someone to lean on. Always remember those that sacrificed time to help you. Thank you Odan Wei, Vladarion, 3th, Moridin, n00b, Motrec, Faded, Leif, and Tido, you will not be forgotten as the ones to make you remember, it's all about fun... |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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Sithmaster, we vote for the candidate, not the representative. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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3th - Retired 
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voted Ulic, stop with the political wankery please. it's all over but the lawsuits now anyway edit: sithmaster, i assume you're talking about the electoral college. yes we vote for a candidate and who ever wins the popular vote for each state the dude in the electoral college casts his/her vote for that candidate. so in theory yes that person could change their vote to the other person but that's never happened to my knowledge. i hope that clears up our system a little more for you _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! This comment was edited by 3th on Nov 02 2004 10:54pm. |
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DF_SithMaster44 - Student 
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Before anyone reads what I want to say next, I just want to make sure you don't think I'm telling you not to vote. Voting is good. I'm not a US citizen, but as far as I know, you vote for a representative of the candidate, and then that representative is "supposed" to vote for the candidate he announces. This system is completely corruptible. How do you know he really voted for the person he said he would? There are just financial agreements with the representatives so that the candidate the government agreed would become the leader. There's really no voting at all, as the people cannot elect anyone. _______________ Once I heard about something called "real life". I tried to find out what that was and I discovered that it is a place where you can use Force powers without draining your Force pool!! | laming NPCs is good for your soul This comment was edited by DF_SithMaster44 on Nov 02 2004 08:11pm. |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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Just voted for Badnarik. Go go libertarians! _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Devlin - Student 
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I just voted _______________ Be at peace, and you will discover things you never dreamed possible. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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I have reasons why not to vote for both of them. I'm not even sure I trust either of them. But still, I'm in the UK, so whatever. Oh, and from what I heard, there's about 400ish votes!  |
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Everybody - Student 
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3 reasons why I cant vote: 1) I am only 14 2) I live in the UK 3) I don't know which one to vote for! (or really care...) _______________ Signature, schmignature. |
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Ulic Belouve - Student 
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Voted. Bush. And, the exciting part....I got to do the exit poll too, which allowed me to answer multiple choice questions on how I feel on Bush and how I feel on Kerry-who-by-the-way-served-in-Vietnam. I still think if Kerry concentrates, he can beat Nixon and get our troops out of Vietnam by '74. Isn't that the issue here? _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. |
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koushka - Student 
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I am on my way now to vote, I took the time off of work to do this and I am glad we have a message stating the importance of voting especially in this election, great job DJ, NOW VOTE! _______________ Faithful Padawan of {SKX}Dark Blade My profile pic is luke skywalker
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Malk - Student 
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You have to register to be able to vote? Seems a strange way of doing things. Here in the UK as soon as you turn 18 you automatically can vote in elections, don't need to register or anything like that. You get sent a card to your home when there is an election coming up, telling you where your nearest polling station is. _______________ You swing too hard, ass. I Swear!!! |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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I actually have to admit that if I would live in America, and was allowed to vote, I would be the first in line! _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Duffman - Student 
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Quote: Already sent in my absentee ballot Did mine 2 weeks ago _______________ *Sigh* Married to Mirael D'kana, Former master to Shangri Stomwind and Crash D'Kana, Owner of Gil-Galad's 100th post, Khâ D'Kana's 700th post, and friend to just about everyone |
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Sared - Retired 
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Went into hit early voting already. And none too soon either. If I had hit the polls any later then I would have had to wait through insane lines. _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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