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Get out and vote tomorrow! -DJ Sith - Nov 02 03:18am

Here's a friendly reminder to those of you who are US citizens of voting age: your vote counts! Voting for the candidate you believe in can never be a "wasted vote". * I want to see comments on this post tomorrow saying that you went out and fufilled your civic duties! This is a big election, and we need everyone's opinion on it so please hit those polls tomorrow! We now return you to your Jedi Academy already in progress...

* A message for you in those states that lean heavily toward a particular candidate. :)

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Nov 03 2004 02:09pm

Tido
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 Tido

Voted yesterday :).

Nov 03 2004 09:18am

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

One thing I saw on the news, when people where using the new kind of voting system and went to click on Kerry,it selected Bush and it took computer engineers to come in and fix it after hours...I quote the woman "I hope this was just a compter malfunction,...other than something more devious".
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Nov 03 2004 07:11am

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

Wish I'd seen this thread earlier. Polls are long closed now.

Sith, when we punch a ballot we do indeed vote for a candidate, but you are correct in that, for the Presidential race only, it's slightly more complicated in theory. I'll write up a thread on the electoral college some time.

I'd like to point out something about the "wasted vote" thing... A lot of people in non-swing states don't bother to vote. After all, in the all-or-none system of electoral votes for each states, it doesn't make much sense to vote if you know your guy will lose in your state (if that's the only race you're interested in). Nor does it make much sense for a lot of people to vote if they know their guy will win whether they vote or not. In fact, historically voter turnouts have been high in states where it's close (I live in Ohio, and believe me it's been an exciting day here).

But if you're not in a swing state, and if there is absolutely no doubt about which Presidential candidate will carry all your state's electoral votes whether you turn out or not, there are still two important reasons for you to vote anyway:

1. If your guy wins in the electoral college, it helps legitimize his Presidency if he also wins the popular vote nationwide. In 2000 lots of Bush supporters didn't bother to vote in Texas, for example, because the outcome there was never in doubt. But the result was that he lost the popular vote nationwide.
2. If your guy wins in the electoral college but loses the popular vote, you'll hear about it non-stop for the next four years! So get out and vote even if you're in a non-swing state.

Too bad I didn't see this yesterday. But this advice will still apply four years from now.

Oh, one more thing...Ignore the polls. Ignore the polls. Ignore the polls. All the exit polls were calling this election for Kerry all day. Guess what? Exit polls being horsecrap is not a new thing but a long-standing historical trend. They've never been a good predictor. Your magic 8-ball is more reliable. Remember that four years from now too, and don't let your candidate's standing in the exit polls (or any other poll) influence your decision to vote or not.


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Nov 03 2004 04:39am

Ashyr
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 Ashyr

I wish I was old enough to vote. :/
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Nov 03 2004 12:42am

Janus
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 Janus

Voted, done.
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Nov 02 2004 10:52pm

Gradius
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 Gradius

Sithmaster, we vote for the candidate, not the representative. :)
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Nov 02 2004 10:41pm

3th
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 3th

voted :)

Ulic, stop with the political wankery please. it's all over but the lawsuits now anyway :P

edit: sithmaster, i assume you're talking about the electoral college. yes we vote for a candidate and who ever wins the popular vote for each state the dude in the electoral college casts his/her vote for that candidate. so in theory yes that person could change their vote to the other person but that's never happened to my knowledge. i hope that clears up our system a little more for you :)
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Nov 02 2004 08:05pm

DF_SithMaster44
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 DF_SithMaster44

Before anyone reads what I want to say next, I just want to make sure you don't think I'm telling you not to vote. Voting is good.

I'm not a US citizen, but as far as I know, you vote for a representative of the candidate, and then that representative is "supposed" to vote for the candidate he announces. This system is completely corruptible. How do you know he really voted for the person he said he would?

There are just financial agreements with the representatives so that the candidate the government agreed would become the leader. There's really no voting at all, as the people cannot elect anyone.
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Nov 02 2004 05:45pm

DJ Sith
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 DJ Sith

Just voted for Badnarik. Go go libertarians!
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Nov 02 2004 05:32pm

Devlin
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 Devlin

I just voted :D
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Nov 02 2004 05:23pm

Setementor
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 Setementor

I have reasons why not to vote for both of them. I'm not even sure I trust either of them. But still, I'm in the UK, so whatever. :P

Oh, and from what I heard, there's about 400ish votes! :eek:

Nov 02 2004 04:56pm

Everybody
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 Everybody

3 reasons why I cant vote:
1) I am only 14
2) I live in the UK
3) I don't know which one to vote for! (or really care...)
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Nov 02 2004 04:27pm

Ulic Belouve
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 Ulic Belouve

Voted.

Bush.

And, the exciting part....I got to do the exit poll too, which allowed me to answer multiple choice questions on how I feel on Bush and how I feel on Kerry-who-by-the-way-served-in-Vietnam.

I still think if Kerry concentrates, he can beat Nixon and get our troops out of Vietnam by '74. Isn't that the issue here?
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Nov 02 2004 03:30pm

koushka
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 koushka

I am on my way now to vote, I took the time off of work to do this and I am glad we have a message stating the importance of voting especially in this election, great job DJ,

NOW VOTE!
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Nov 02 2004 02:30pm

Malk
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 Malk

You have to register to be able to vote? Seems a strange way of doing things.

Here in the UK as soon as you turn 18 you automatically can vote in elections, don't need to register or anything like that. You get sent a card to your home when there is an election coming up, telling you where your nearest polling station is.
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Nov 02 2004 01:32pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

I actually have to admit that if I would live in America, and was allowed to vote, I would be the first in line!
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Nov 02 2004 10:44am

Duffman
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Already sent in my absentee ballot


Did mine 2 weeks ago
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Nov 02 2004 06:13am

Sared
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 Sared

Went into hit early voting already. And none too soon either. If I had hit the polls any later then I would have had to wait through insane lines. :D
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Nov 02 2004 06:06am

Mikel Rider
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 Mikel Rider

Well, 4 more years and you get another chance masta :D, I am also not registered, mostly because I am a lazy bum.
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Nov 02 2004 05:45am

Smilykrazy
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 Smilykrazy

I am not registered either. For the first time in the last 6 years I wish I was. But its too late now. :(
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Nov 02 2004 05:41am

Buzz
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 Buzz

Already sent in my absentee ballot
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Nov 02 2004 05:20am

SaberWeildinKow
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Besides, I'm firmly against rushing out there to try and make a difference when I believe it won't.


oh pooh, why's that?

Nov 02 2004 04:55am

Gradius
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 Gradius

Meh, I didn't register in time to vote. Besides, I'm firmly against rushing out there to try and make a difference when I believe it won't.
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Nov 02 2004 04:05am

Sfire
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 Sfire

I'm only 16 so I just vote on websites. :P Best I can do..lol
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Nov 02 2004 03:30am

(SKX) Dark Blade
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I agree with DJ. This will be the first time I get to vote, ever and despite the fact I live in Georgia, a conservative stronghold, I will still vote. GO TEAM!
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This comment was edited by (SKX) Dark Blade on Nov 02 2004 03:30am.

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