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Lightsabers ultimate weakness??
Apr 21 2004 08:18am

o2b
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o2b
What would happen if you put a mirror in the lightsaber beam? being light it would reflect...correct?

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Sep 01 2004 08:29pm

Zertz
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 Zertz

Cortosis weave armor and weapons and a Ysalimiri should do the trick against those Jedi.
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Sep 01 2004 11:48am

Anakin
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 Anakin

well all i know is that lightsabre cells generate impossibly large ammounts of energy and at the end of the blade is a focusing cyrstal that attracts all the energy towards it. Thats why the blade goes up on a slope. and the crystal has to be the sige of the lightsabre cell. well thats one theory. but nobody knows. Maybe thats why its fiction...lol javascript:doSmile (':alliance:')
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Aug 12 2004 08:02am

Janiriki
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 Janiriki

hmmmm
it seems this whole discussion is pointed at what we know. Tell me this, EXACTLY what is light made of, and therfore why does it act like a particle in some situations and a wave in others, then I'll MAKE you a lightsabre!:cool:
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Jul 25 2004 07:02pm

Mic Den Octela
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 Mic Den Octela

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For the water thing: go watch episode 1 again. No matter how much you don't want to. Although I can't remember it properly right now (will post when I do), Qui-Gon gives a fairly credible explanation - something to do with the power circuits overloading, instantly draining the battery, so Obi-Wan has to wait for it to recharge. He also mentions that a lightsaber with the battery turned off doesn't take water damage.


And about that, yea it is a cut scene i saw it on a documentory about George Luceth (:P) and his filems
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Jul 25 2004 07:00pm

Mic Den Octela
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 Mic Den Octela

Just a thought, lightsabers--made of light energy right?, well how on earth does the light stop at the end of the blade, some hidden cortosis pole with a mirror on the end? lol
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Jul 25 2004 04:59am

Masta
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 Masta

Actually...it can even stop the repeaters primary fire(well...it depends on the Jedi and his reflexes)
..a trained Jedi can even stop 2 repeaters shooting at him at the same time...i dont think that he can do 3 or more at the same time without beeing hit but uhm...
He can definately take 4 e-web (gun turrets) ppl shooting at him at the same time from a close range like 5 meters only by deflecting the shots =)

(at least in JK3 =P)
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Jul 25 2004 03:27am

Padawan
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i have a solution for the missle bit, its called force push.


That also works for repeater alt attack.

Jul 24 2004 10:42pm

skankerkid
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 skankerkid

yes i belevie if i had a suit a suit of mirrors, i would be unhurt by a strike from a lightsaber, or any other beam weapon.
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The weakness of a lightsaber is it can't stop Repeater Rifle secondary fire nor can it stop missiles!

But they sure don't explain that one in the movies! :P

i have a solution for the missle bit, its called force push. just push right back at them. and if your reflexes arent good enough just make sure you've maxed out your force speed level.
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Jul 24 2004 10:24pm

Padawan
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Well the way Qui-Gon went about the test was a bit odd, but I thought the midichlorian tester was pretty neat.

100th POST WOOT!!!


He probably had his suspisions (how tf do you spell that?!?) about Anakins Jedi potential, but didn't want to start telling everyone, if you know what I mean. The poor kid would probably wet himself with joy if Qui Gon just said, 'I'm testing your blood for a medichlorion count just incase your going to fulfil the ancient Jedi prophesy and bring balance to the Force.' I know I would o.0 .

Jul 15 2004 02:46am

R2D2
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 R2D2

Well the way Qui-Gon went about the test was a bit odd, but I thought the midichlorian tester was pretty neat.

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Jul 15 2004 02:37am

Ashyr
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 Ashyr

I didn't see anything wrong with medichlorians.....
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Jul 15 2004 01:47am

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

Well presumably there's a reason it was cut. :D

The blood-test-to-be-a-Jedi scene should have suffered the same fate. Would have made the movie at least 15% less stupid.

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Jul 14 2004 11:45pm

D'Loko
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The weakness of a lightsaber is it can't stop Repeater Rifle secondary fire nor can it stop missiles!

But they sure don't explain that one in the movies! :P
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Jul 14 2004 09:30pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

I know, it's a cut-out scene

I do believe this scene is included in the DVD-version with the Extra's but I'm not sure of that
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Jul 14 2004 09:28pm

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

Tarp, I saw Ep I three times and don't remember anything like that.
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Jul 14 2004 09:18pm

tarpman
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For the water thing: go watch episode 1 again. No matter how much you don't want to. Although I can't remember it properly right now (will post when I do), Qui-Gon gives a fairly credible explanation - something to do with the power circuits overloading, instantly draining the battery, so Obi-Wan has to wait for it to recharge. He also mentions that a lightsaber with the battery turned off doesn't take water damage.
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This comment was edited by tarpman on Jul 14 2004 09:20pm.

Jul 14 2004 01:19am

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

Good topic.

Um, guys, "pure energy" is a meaningless concept. Everything in the universe...well, everything that we can physically interact with, even if only indirectly...is energy.

I can buy that the blade is magnetically manipulated plasma, but a physicist friend of mine has suggested other possible solutions. There are wave forms that have great amplitude for a short distance but then very abruptly begin to attenuate rapidly after a certain number of cycles. It's possible that the lightsabre is extremely high energy EM radiation traveling in such waves.

What doesn't wash about the plasma idea is that the magnetic field would be so extraordinarily powerful that we would see other very obvious effects of it that I see no evidence of in the movies. On the other hand, it could possibly explain the whole concept of lightsabre dueling: If the blades were like laser beams, one could pass right through another uninhibited, but magnetic fields, depending on their structure, might repel each other with greater force than human strength could overcome, so one "blade" could indeed block another. That could also explain sabre lock, if the magnetic fields come together lined up just right.

Personally, the less about it is actually expalained, the more intriguing I find it. If SW were "hard" science fiction I'd want a credible scientific explanation for everything, but since it's fantasy it works much better if things like lightsabres and the Force are simply presented as given.

The less credible any sci-fi technology is, the more I want the explanation to be "It works using principles of physics we have yet to discover," rather than some pseudoscientific gobbledygook that my rational mind will rebel against. The rational mind can accept that there's amazing stuff we have yet to discover.

I wouldn't expect them to turn off underwater (although they do in the games). The blade does not appear to be electrical in nature, and I would expect the hilt and lens encasement to be waterproof, since it is meant to be taken to war.


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Jul 14 2004 12:15am

Vasper Ba'xian
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I'll tellyou what the Ultimate weakness is......ya rdy?




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Jul 10 2004 12:27am

R2D2
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 R2D2

The blade has to be some form of plasma energy held together by a magnetic field in a shape of a blade. The color of the saber simply depends on the type of crystal. Due to the fact that it is held by magnetic fields and is pure energy in the form of plasma water wouldn't affect it.
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Jul 07 2004 03:39am

skankerkid
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 skankerkid

dont worry at least i wont
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Jun 16 2004 11:43pm

Padawan
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On the Clone Wars cartoon Festo or whatever he's called (the tentacle dude) used his underwater, and if he didn't, well he can in one of the SW games on Cartoon Network.com. Please don't laugh at me :(. :P

Jun 15 2004 06:20pm

Demo Strike
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 Demo Strike

I belive a light saber could work under water...I mean the jedi council would have made it waterproof of course. :D

Jun 15 2004 10:15am

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

could a droid work in water? no either could a lightsaber and a Lightsaber gives of pure energy its the crystal that gives off light but without the crystal it wouldnt work.
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Jun 15 2004 06:52am

DF_SithMaster44
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Almost all the lower half of the lightsaber is the diatium power cell (ancient lightsabers were connected by a wire to a power cell in the Jedi's belt) then, after it, the primary crystal (Adegan crystal) then the focusing crystals, blade control circuits and finally the stabilizer magnetic ring. A lightsaber ONLY emanates heat when it cuts through something or if the power cell is not working properly. Only the most advanced lightsabers have the blade customization controls (blade power and lenght) and waterseals, which prevent the blade from wearing off underwater (Kit Fisto's lightsaber is supposed to have a waterseal). The only thing that prevents the blade energy to be quickly drained is that there's a circuit on which the energy from the blade returns to the battery, and then to the blade, then to the battery... a lightsaber only loses energy when it cuts something (yes, the battery power runs out ). The blade can cut through ANYTHING, but will take less or more time to do the job, depending on the material (cortosis, for example). The blade is actually a high-powered energy vortex, which emanates some light.
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Jun 11 2004 04:34pm

Vasper Ba'xian
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The Jedi that makes the saber will build it in different ways. Some build the saber to come on when it is griped and to turn off when its let go. Maybe this is something they all do, have it turn off in water.:eek:
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