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Lightsabers ultimate weakness??
Apr 21 2004 08:18am

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What would happen if you put a mirror in the lightsaber beam? being light it would reflect...correct?

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Sep 25 2004 03:24am

Plo Koon
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i think yoda or obiwan might conjure up some sort of force push or block,if you can catch lightning (wich moves insanely faster then bullets) then you can push bullets away.
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Sep 24 2004 10:39pm

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Fair enough, but what about a shotgun blast? The pellets are all fired simultaneously, so they're all going to hit the jedi at the same time... the lightsaber would have to be in several places at once to catch them all.
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Sep 24 2004 12:53am

Plo Koon
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bullets coming in all directions toward a jedi,like a pentagon shape wouldnt be hard for masters or knights but padawans maybe,obiwan blocked shots coming from every direction in one quick twirl.
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Sep 23 2004 11:45pm

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If a lightsaber is a beam of electrons, it ought to make your hair stand up (electrons are charged, and would induce charges in anything near them in such quantitiy) via static electricity. Although I might be wrong, my physics isn't as good as it should be.
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Sep 23 2004 04:00am

Koyi Donita
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Well, I'm no physics major but it might be easy to say that the lightsaber is a controlled beam of electrons. Passing through such a beam would most likely cause an altered path possibly causing the bullet casings to fly towards the tip of the blade. Also, seeing how fast the blade of a lightsaber was cutting through the blast doors of a ship a small amount of metal like that of a bullet casing might actually become so super heated that it may assume gaseous form.

Also by watching the movie, it could be quite possible for a group of disgruntled office workers wielding office equipment and furniture to beat a Jedi. Look what happened to Luke when he fought Vader in episode 5. Large slow moving metal objects could have easily destroyed Luke. Kinda makes you think about all of that movie magic and special *or should I say, Not so special* effects. Blaster bolts may appear slow moving being that this movie was made a long long time ago, but physically in this world I think it would move alot faster then a bullet. I could be wrong though. :D
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Sep 22 2004 10:44pm

GHarris
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Actually, you can see from the films (and games) that the blaster shots move pretty slowly. Certainly slower than bullets, I'd say. I think that, as long as there's a little variation in the spray of bullets, rather than a thin line of bullets, it would be pretty difficult to get them all. And as you say, it wouldn't deflect the bullets (at least by much)... so you might have lumps of molten metal hitting you instead... ow.

In fact, I think a shotgun would be the perfect gun for the job... all the pellets are fired at the same time, so it'd be pretty much impossible to deflect them all. Make it a reasonably fast firing shotgun, like that Jackhammer out of Max Payne 1, and you've got one pwned jedi.
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Sep 22 2004 10:32pm

Koyi Donita
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Actually, a Jedi armed with a lightsaber can block any incoming projectile very easily. They can't deflect bullets, but the saber would destroy them on contact. I can see a Jedi deflecting fire from any rapid fire weapon with little difficulty. They would probably enter into a trance like state and with graceful movements turn and move their sabers into the path of the projectiles. Think about it, blaster shot probably move close to if not as fast as the speed of light being energy type blasts. Bullets would infact more alot slower and could probably be blocked with greater accuracy.

A rapid fire blaster on the otherhand could prove to be a problem as we saw in Attack of the Clones. A great deal of shots were raining on these Jedi's and alot of them were dropping like flies. The multiple angles of the shots may have played a role in this as well for it may be easy to block what's coming right at you from the front, but with the sides being attacked too it may not have been possible to deflect them all.


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Sep 22 2004 07:43pm

GHarris
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It seems to me that, to kill a lightsaber-armed jedi, all you need to do is use a traditional gun. A fast firing one, in particular. I doubt lightsabers can deflect bullets, besides which a fast-firing gun would be too difficult to keep up with. Just let rip with an uzi and it's bye-bye jedi :cool:.

Of course, I may have missed something obvious. Feel free to tell me why I'm wrong :)

Edit: I think I've seen what's wrong with it myself. The jedi could probably just "do a Neo" and make the bullets stop in mid-air and fall to the ground.
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This comment was edited by GHarris on Sep 22 2004 08:12pm.

Sep 22 2004 03:26am

Plo Koon
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your right Koyi i read that too,on starwars.com

no heat but if it touches a material it gets hot as a lazer and can cut through anything except another lightsaber or a lazer bolt.
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This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Sep 22 2004 09:48pm.

Sep 22 2004 01:22am

Koyi Donita
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I'm not really too sure about that one. That is a saber being super hot. I remember reading somewhere that the energy blade doesn't produce any heat at all, but it can ignite materials on contact. I could be wrong. :)
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Sep 21 2004 11:24am

Gradius
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Basically, a light saber is a super-heated laser. Of course it would go right through a mirror, it's so too hot. There are real industrial lasers out there that cut through mirrors due to the heat and amount of power usage. So, in my opinion, yes, a saber would without a doubt cut through a mirror. :)
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Sep 21 2004 06:43am

Koyi Donita
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As far as the whole lightsaber against mirrors theory, I think a saber would cut through it. You see, a lightsaber is light, but it's an arc of energy. A random stream of light would reflect where a contained arc might be a different story. The number of electrons or energy may be too great for the mirror to reflect and would result in it's destruction. I know the reflectors we have a the theatre begin to dull after time and that's only with the light of a xenon bulb on it with moments to cool. A saber is a direct beam of energy. I see your points where I do believe some degree of reflection may be possible, but a mirror would probably be destroyed rather quickly against the direct energy blade of a saber. That would be like trying to reflect a lightning bolt with a mirror. Somehow, I just don't believe that is possible.

Just my thoughts. :D
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Sep 19 2004 04:26am

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Cortosis ore is expensive, because it's rare. Yes, there are lots of planets, but it isn't all over the place. It's rare as in hard to find. Vibroblades aren't expensive. In fact, they're relatively common.

Also, I read somewhere that Vader's armour is just durasteel.


Cortosis weave vibroblades are too expensive for the limited use they would provide during the GCW Era, standard vibroblades are common. Durasteel if hyperbonded is strong enough to use in blast shields and armour, like Vader's armour.
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Sep 17 2004 02:41am

Plo Koon
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well reading random stuff isnt star wars - REAL star wars is only the 6 movies.
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Sep 15 2004 07:47pm

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Cortosis ore is expensive, because it's rare. Yes, there are lots of planets, but it isn't all over the place. It's rare as in hard to find. Vibroblades aren't expensive. In fact, they're relatively common.

Also, I read somewhere that Vader's armour is just durasteel.
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Sep 12 2004 09:46pm

Zertz
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Yes, its not just Cortosis Ore, but cortosis ore is the best material to use. You do need to remember however that vibroblades dont have moving parts in the blade and can therefore use hyperstrength alloy (its not visibly moving, its a light vibration feeling and an ominous hum) with a cortosis weave (the expensive ones). With 12 Billion inhabited planets and countless resource belts and planets rare is sufficient to equip large portions of a galaxy spanning army (remember again, it doesn't need to be pure cortosis). I always thought Vader's outer armour was powered fusion density durasteel/cortosis myself.
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Sep 08 2004 10:04pm

Carve
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Personally, I feel that to be a load of crap. To say all vibroblades have cortosis ore in them is preposterous. As you said, it's a rare mineral. Perhaps there are some vibroblades that can't be cut through - at least not effortlessly - but to say all of them can't is ridiculous. Not to mention the addition of such a mineral would make them stupendously expensive.

On the other hand, let us not forget that there are things other than Cortosis Ore that can resist lightsabers. I'm sure we all can recall the scene in Empire Strikes back, shortly before Vader "disarms" (haha - as in cuts his hand off - get it?) Luke, that Luke's lightsaber hits Vader in the shoulder but causes only a minor wound and some sparks. A lightsaber is basically a laserbeam. Material dense and/or strong enough can resist it. Also look at Obi-Wan's lightsaber cutting through the doors of the Droid ships in Episode I. It takes time. They don't instantly vaporize everything immediately. It just kinda... melts through stuff.
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Sep 08 2004 06:54pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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it's made of specific alloys alongside Cortosis, which is a rare mineral that can resist lightsabers
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Sep 08 2004 02:06pm

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so what's a vibro blade made of? I never thought about it before.
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Sep 07 2004 08:32pm

Lithaerien
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you're joking right? a lightsaber can cut through anything except another lightsaber because its pure energy,the light you see from it comes from a crystal.


No, Lightsabers can not penatrate vibro blades :D
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Sep 06 2004 07:56pm

Zertz
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you're joking right? a lightsaber can cut through anything except another lightsaber because its pure energy,the light you see from it comes from a crystal.


Cortosis Ore is capabile of providing limited resistance to lightsabers, this in weapons protects from sparring damage for a limited ammount of time (depending on the cortosis count, cortosis is INCREDIBLY expensive and rare and needs other alloys in it for strength).
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Sep 04 2004 10:39pm

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From a Crystal yes but comes from a laser which we no that is usually Light, a Strong Laser for a Power Cell at the Bottom. the Crystal How can I put this...Makes the Crystal More Longer, More powerfuler etc etc.
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Sep 04 2004 05:12pm

JamesF1
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Ultimate weakness?

The ultimate weakness of a lightsabre is that IT ISN'T DAMN WELL REAL! :P :D
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Sep 03 2004 09:50pm

Plo Koon
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you're joking right? a lightsaber can cut through anything except another lightsaber because its pure energy,the light you see from it comes from a crystal.
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Sep 03 2004 09:14pm

Carve
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One of the books had someone using a lightsaber under water. Caused the water to boil (the blade generated heat because it was coming in contact with the water), thus making it like... you know... impossible to use.

Can't remember what book it was.
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