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Lian Del Rey - Student  |
...because the Jedi Academy has magically stopped being a training thing and moved onto a community with no training whatsoever. Was the Jedi Academy made for IRC? I didn't think so. The Jedi Academy was MAINLY made so that the people could train so they could own other people at Public Servers.. in other words.. increase JK2/JK:JA skills. So, Huxley was at the server today. One part of why he left was... nevermind.. he wants to keep that secret-ish. But the other part was because the JACs ignored all of his suggestions. And now I'm upset at the JACs. All you JACs know this story. Let me tell it again. A long time ago in the ancient oldbie days, I was hanging out with Silent Whispy at DJ's Server (wee!) Eventually I persuaded Whispy about this... either that or she was too freaked out about how I blackmailed her to show everybody the high-definition photograph of her picking her nose and sticking her tongue out. (Not really.) Anyway, I was about to become a roleplaying teacher! You better watch out Yun! WHISPY: I'll BRB. In the meantime, plan how your classes will be.  LIANIOTTE: Wee! So I was all... ready... and stuff. Preparing how everything will start out, anxiously waiting for Whispy's return. She never came back. To this day I'm not entirely happy with myself trusting Whisper. Anger. Fury. Irritation. Humiliation. Well cross out Anger and Fury, but I was definately irritated and humiliated... and DEFINATELY let down. I thought that the JACs were the most trustworthy people around. Besides, she could have even joined the server and said "Sorry but you can't be a JAT anymore" if that's the case, instead of ditching me entirely. So, what's my point? The JACs should stop only being on IRC, but joining both games' servers. Now I'm upset at the Jedi Academy. The Jedi Academy wasn't meant to be a huge IRC station, but a training place with teachers.. well, teaching. Maybe we should get JATs who can teach more interesting things, so we don't have to relearn things we've learned thousands of times. DJ, whatever happened with you talking about the JAStaff thing so I can host roleplaying stuff? DJ, you're the one that made this site, and you've been a good "friend" to me, so I'm not directly mad at YOU. I'm just mad in general. (Not.. crazy.) I am aware of the people that are going to reply to this saying THEIR opinion.. And stuff. Deleting this topic will just show if you can't handle this sorts of situations. _______________ slorp This post was edited by Lian Del Rey on Dec 03 2003 04:52am. |
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Furi0us - Student 
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I know i'm probably repeating someone but;  A new Jedi Knight game comes out, suddenly we have all these people who were inactive suddenly pop up wanting to play. Then they bitch about there not being enough classes for the game, they can't expect it to be that easy. Not all the JAK/T/C have JKA, take DJ for example, He's got a shitty Mac, he can't play games  , and those of the JAK/T/C that have it need time to get a feel of the game if they haven't already.Then there's the Class Trials, c'mon the JAK/T can't just magically have the best abilities at the game, so they need to practice alot to get their skills up to take classes which benefit YOU, i think that's pretty decent of them. Summing it all up you just should be grateful that this community exists, and that you have the privelige to take part in the features of it. Hey this is just my $0.02 _______________ You are not your f***ing system specs. You are not your uptime stats, your script file, or your oversized desktop screencap. You are not your broadband connection. You are not your f***ing post count. |
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(SKX) Dark Blade - Student 
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I find it funny that Jello says then even thoug Lian is his neighbor _______________ What is the difference between love and Herpes? Herpes lasts forever. (CDC joke) Padawans: Trad Redav, Darth Jello, Tallepyon, Shang Chi, Dopp, Karlin Duke, AuroN, Koushka, Damon, and Katan Brother to Xanatos |
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Doppelgänger - Student 
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Wow Jell-O that's erm...that's really adult like of you. I've never seen you speak that way before. You seem pretty big for your britches don't you think? I mean I agree with what you said but I think you can be a little more polite about it. What do you think that being polite is only for the lowly students we have around here? _______________ "Look not back in anger, nor forward in fear But around you in awareness." Ross Hersey |
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SirBizNatch - Student 
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I think we need a better system of telling active users, because im sure there can't be more than 500 really active users, and maybe 1000 kinda active people. Also, MIRC-wise, most people are AFK, and like max people talking at one time would be like 15 maybe. _______________ Personal body guard to teh 1337 Jacen Aratan! Midbie Council Memeber||Member of the Almighty FiZZsters |
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Jello` - Student 
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1. Would we really nead a JAT just for RP? I think not. 2. You leave the JA, come back, and then whine. Basically what JJ said. 3. The transition to JK3... well, since it was a new game, the JAK/T/C were just as good as it as everyone else when it came out. So what was there to teach? Thats why we had the month period of no classes so they could learn and prepare to teach. 4. An IRC community? Right now I see 53 users in the channel. From the time I joined 8 different people have spoken. I'd say 8/53 is a good average for active people in the channel. So, you take 8 and compare it to the.... 400 (guessing) or so ACTIVE members we have? thats 2% in my world (after much debate on IRC, lol to those of you who were there). I'd say youd have to have a majority of the members on IRC for it to be an 'IRC Community' (thats >50% for you Lian). So all I have to say there is... WTF. I'm done blabbering. One more thing: "Deleting this topic will prove you cant handle this sort of thing"? I just think it proves were sick of your bitching. What gives you the right to go inactive for a few months, come back, and bitch us out again? Is it all the JACs fault the academy didnt become what YOU wanted it to be? I'm sick of you Lian. _______________ Brady Brothers: Orion-Greg, Furi0us-Peter, Me-Bobby. Long lost cousin to Flash. Midbie Council #007. Ex-JAK. This comment was edited by Jello` on Dec 03 2003 09:30pm. |
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Doppelgänger - Student 
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I left the JA and joined a clan some time back but when their council system failed and great ideas were being ignored I came back here on the grounds that the JA was the only place that listened to it's members and changed. There is still plenty of evidence that the council listens and changes but I think some people aren't being entrusted as well as they deserve. As far as growth goes I see potential on many platforms. Aphex has started a FFA team that will play against clans and from my own experience when you whoop a clans butt they become very interested in who you are and where you come from. I think we'll get allot of people joining us from clans because clans are nothing more than a place for experienced people to show off their skills but wouldn't want someone else to pick them up. Let's face it! Working in the U.S. is tough now-a-days especially for a collage student. Low end jobs aren't paying what they used to and they are getting hard to come by. I wish things could go back the way they were in 1999 but that's likely not to happen for another year or more. Maybe the JA could start looking into supporting itself on a grander scale. Why not start looking into renting clan servers or Forum servers? We have people with the know how and I don't think it's all that far fetched of an idea. The JA could be a non-profit organization. There isn't a reason why we couldn't find a way to free up a JACs time more. BTW: I'd like Hux to come back to us more than anything. Sure he was strange and suspicious of innocent people but he was cute. Yes Lian is a lamer and has a strange sense of humor and despite hating those qualities in her I also loved them. Could she be trusted? Erm…I don't know! Lian's just Lian, another one of those people you just can't help but listen to when she's on anther rampage. I hate to see things go astray. I get all motherly and want to help. So…What does the council want done? What do they need? Start asking trustworthy people and get to know them when you've got the time because trustworthy people aren't a dime a dozen. We're here and you're not._______________ "Look not back in anger, nor forward in fear But around you in awareness." Ross Hersey |
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Dante Valmont - Retired 
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The JA is what you make of it. Not what others make of it. You want change, you want to train. Ask someoen to train you, ask someone to teach you or teahc someone yourself. Last time i checked JAT's aren't the only ones who can train. You want this stuff to start up, forget what you knew, unlearn everythign you have and start over. I knwo i promised not to have another padawan, then broke it for dacascos (ravencloak now). But i have been helping Jaiko and virtue a bit whenever i can. So in the server if anyone wants some help, i can do that as a friend, not as a master. The people make the academy what it is, nto just one small group within the community. Do you remember why you first joined? I did and do. Now i'm goign to repay the favor. Talking won't get anyone anywhere, there is hollowness in words. Show by your actions, actions to bring the academy back to what it was. _______________ "A teacher is one who makes himself progressively unnecessary" |
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D@RtHM@UL - Student 
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The Academy is still adjusting a bit from the coming of JK:JA. Not all JAT have done there JK:JA Class Trial yet, and I think that's one of the most important things. If they do there trials they will be allowed to teach JK:JA aswell, which imo is needed since I see a lot of posts about why there aren't any JK:JA classes. A lot of new people joined cause they wanted to learn more about JK:JA, yet if you look at the classes roster you will only find 3 or 4 classes. Further the JKII Classes List should be a bit updated by the JAT's and JAK's... face it... except for a few popular classes like Knight Trial Duels, Smily's Class and FiZZster Style ( there are some more) most of the class rosters are empty, meaning no enrollers. For Students it isn't fun if they do enroll and see noone is there except the Trainer and hearing class is cancelled cause noone showed up and I can realise it isn't very fun for JAT and JAK's to see there classes empty over and over again. If you clear the "Empty" Classes for JKII and in that time let the teacher for example do his JK:JA Trial he can start teaching that. As for inactive Council Members, I see Solo and cHoSeN-oNe on quite a lot, for the others.... well there is around 7-8 houres time difference between us so if I'm on there sleeping or at work. And the other way around when there playing. I'm possitive they are working very hard behind the scenes if they weren't this Academy would no longer exist. Such a big place can't be upholded so long if no responsibility was taken for it. The site is awesome and updated very closely... just think if someone get's promoted to JAK or JAT it's almost at the same time on the news. The servers are filled with cool mods, maps and skins, aswell as updated a lot. And lamers and people who misbehave are dealled with strictly and fast. Yet they can't do all those things, and then also play AND have a busy RL. They have to make choises aswell. Think for a sec....what would you rather have? A awesome site and servers updated good and fast or the JAC playing a lot and site and servers pushed a side a bit? And what Solo told they are working on new JAK and JAT's. And perhaps another JAC is needed, 5 JAC's for a community that has more then 5555 ( ) Members is a bit too few perhaps. |
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Mace Windu - Retired 
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Lian, this is a new generation! #1: You can't let things that are in the past effect you now in the present. #2: I know I may not have been there during the oldbie times, but things are defenetley different, if not, changing... This is a new generation of students (mostly). Things can only get better at this point, so do not worry. Lets put the past behind us, and keep on going. Its just like in real life, you can't stop living just because a family member died a 2 years ago. You gotta keep on going and flowing with the punches... _______________ -Mace Windu "When a fool says something foolish, do not answer the fool." -Windu To Vladarion, though I know you are in a better place - it makes me shake to think that you are not awake - when I think about you it makes me smile - i know you have gone into the clouds to head for heavens gates - you have changed my life - in an incredible way - and so I say thank you - may you rest in peace This comment was edited by Mace Windu on Dec 03 2003 03:27pm. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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of ccourse we are not the only ones that are allowed to teach, but we are the only ones allowed to officially teach (classes, that is) Lots of people help out others, and lots of people appreciate that _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Mookie - Ex-Student 
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To expand upon Flash and Odan: they're right. I'm also an example of someone who teaches new guys in the basic ways of conduct and combat. I don't need a JAK tag to inform people. They often ask me, and I answer, and I've seen a lot of online friends in the JA do this succesfully. My point is: there may be more going on than you can see. |
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Daidalus[JAP] Fisto - Student ![Daidalus[JAP] Fisto](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=49&f_height=70&f_image=3482.jpg&f_odd=1){kind=small}
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For my opinion i think JAC's are more or less the organisators of the Academy. I can understand that they aren't able to take so much time for playng on the servers as some studants, but it would be nice to see them from time to time ;-) If they do not, they are going loose their fiew to the beautiful place which they have given us. Its like a mechanicist of cars who dont drive car. I cant remember any JAC running arround on the servers without Mr. Solo sometimes. ok, maybe rthat becouse im the meantime in NL and they are all on home or JK3 servers. I hope to see you from time to time ;-) Greetings, Daidalus Fisto _______________ Founder of the Fisto Family -|- Member of the mighty FiZZsters!! -|- Owner of the second Bail prize for "BAIL RULES!!" -|- I'll never forget you Jaina! -|- Owner of the one and only autograph of Smily -|- SMILY RULES -|- Owner of the 1000th Comment of the great Kueller -|- Big brother to NarCosT Fisto, and ShadowFax . -|- Proud Padawan of Kueller -|-Sir Daidalus Fisto. Official Historian of Nippledom and server to Menaxia, Queen of Nippledom Quote: fiZZe: "gdamubububugmgmgububugrrrrrdsa?"
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Well, I more or less agree with Lianiotte... but, to be honest, I don't think it's really the place of someone who has been inactive for a couple of months, for the SECOND time, to leave a nice long post on the forums about how the JA is mis-managed, or whatever. Don't get me wrong here, I think Lian's got some pretty valid points, but I think maybe we all need to see things from both sides. The folks behind the JA, staff, knights, trainers, even our JACly crew, have to put up with alot to keep this place up. It's stressful, it's tiring, it's ALOT of work. I mean, think of what the JAC's have to do... *Maintain the website *Go through applications to join the JA *Handle trials *Discuss issues on the JAK, JAT, and JAC forums *Their individual duties (Game server admin, lead trainer, enforcer, etc) Plus more. I mean, some of our more dedicated JACs even held regular classes (Like Huxley, JACen, etc) Yeah, we have alot of people hang out on IRC. More than on the servers. That's not the fault of any JAC or JAT.... it's the fault of the students. Y'can't FORCE them to play a video game... that's unhealthy. Anyway, hope I might have brought something to this conversation. |
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Flash - Student 
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Okay Lian, here are my thoughts on this: Well, if you think the JATs aren't teaching enought things, we ARE getting new JATs, so there will be more teaching in that area. If you're saying there isn't much teaching going on in JK3, that's different. The game is still new, and there is still a lot more the JATs can learn about it. Plus, they have to pass a trial to teach in JK3, and some people may not have enough spare time to complete that trial. Although you are viewing this as transforming into an IRC community, if you would look more closely next time you are on IRC, you would see that not everyone on IRC is actually there. Some people are eating, some are PLAYING THE GAME, some are asleep, etc. My point is, this isn't becoming an IRC community, because, for it to be an IRC community, we'd need LOTS of people ACTIVELY in IRC. Check the stats: 5000 members, only about 45 were in IRC when you came in, and only about 7 were talking. That makes us an IRC community? I think not. And, like Odan said, new people are still learning and getting better, even if JATs and JAKs arent allowed. Lots of students here are more than happy to help someone who is new and struggling with a certain move, or isn't skilled with guns, or needs help improving their duelling style. So, just because you think this isn't a place dedicated to teaching, remember, the JATs aren't the only ones helping out new people. Lastly, this is a difficult time for us. In the months after the new game came out, we have been swamped with tons of new members. The ratio of JAKs/JATs to Students had become messed up, so we gained a new wave of JAKs to try to compensate. Now, we are getting new JATs to assist in teaching and help maintain order, which means we will get even MORE JAKs. And now that we have the JK3 JAK trial finished, this can be made possible, and when it is finished, we will be in a better position then we were before. From there, we can hopefully get more organized. Thanks for reading, Flash |
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Odan-Wei Belouve - Student 
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Alright, also I'm quite a new member of the Academy (I got in about 3 months ago), I felt like giving my opinion on that too. I've been hanging a lot on the servers (both JK2 and JK3) I met many ppl, from oldbies to perfect newbies and I even found a Master (Smily rules!!! ). One thing that I noticed and that is stunning is the fact that some people in the JA, who still have a student status, are skilled, nice and very willing to help and teach. I, with my low level of knowledge, even found myself 'teaching' some stuff I just learnt. So there is a lot of knowledge sharing on the servers, ppl are usually nice and helpful but I do think something must be done to increase the ranks of the Knights and Trainers... I see ppl that would be perfect knights, not being nominated and waiting patiently and faithfully for their day to come. I know that some ppl have been nominated and yet some JATs are almost inactive and not responding to the nomination... There are some communication issues for sure, nothing that the JACs and all the Academy can't overcome but if we don't react soon, I think things will only get worse. Now I also understand the status of the JACs. I also have a filled RL and all JA-related activities (playing, posting or profile pics making  ) are limited... I'd love to spend more time with the JA ppl but I just can't. Everyone should understand that the JACs have the responsibility of this community and thus bear a hell of a weight on their shoulders. So, pointing out the problems and looking for constructive solutions is the key for us all. I feel like this place is somewhat a home, or big house where I meet friends, where I may speak to anyone in respect, etc. I don't want to loose that now I found it. I'm ready to help as much as I'm able to. I just think we lack a good number of JAKs and JATs to teach classes and enforce the rules on the servers. And I know there are a good dozen of ppl that could easily become Knights/Trainers in the JA ppl I 've met so far. Wel, that's my $0.02 Friendly, your brother  Odan-Wei _______________ Padawan and brother to SmilyKrazy - Adopted in the Belouve Family by Fizz and Bubu, BELOUVE ON! - Vladarion, you'll always be in my heart and memories - Spam-Padawan of Jacen Aratan - [DJ is my beloved wife! - JA Family: Brothers:
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Kueller - Student 
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Although I think this is a very delicate topic,w hich brings up some problems, I'm glad this is put on the forums because it helped to shake things up. I have full confidence that things will get even better in this already very cool place _______________ Personal sleepness-nights-supporter of Virtue. Owner of the 1000th comment of Daidalus and 1943th comment of Gradius! Owner of the 300th comment of Carda! -Taught Gradius all his laming skills
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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yeah, sure FaDeDs promo is a good thing, but we do not only face some (or even a lot) of broken links here, we also have to face that timezone problem. I am glad to read your responses, DJ and doobie, and Im eagerly awaiting reactions from within the other staff. _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Mookie - Ex-Student 
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Lian poses valid (but outdated) points. Not outdated in the sense that they don't apply this day, but from what I understand you have been inactive for quite some time and suddendly choose to restart the issue. For whatever reason, I'm glad you did, and am even more glad for Doobie's and DJ's reply. I visit both IRC and the servers, but I spend a lot more time on the servers. From what I've found in past gaming group experiences, if your leaders become out of touch with the gamers, an already flawed structure becomes even more damaged. Communication doesn't work out the way you want to, you can't adress the problems because you can't hear the warnings... The thing is, we have a great community here, with a lot of intelligent people who all have suggestions in some way of form on how to improve the current organisation and restructure it to do what it was meant to do: teaching. If manpower in Knights is lacking, you have to do something about the Knight process. You certainly have the manpower to back it up, with enough of willing, calm and intelligent candidates who can show newbies how to train properly. The effect of this is that more Knights/Trainers mean more Padawans, classes and sense of education. It becomes more structured. From there on out, there's no way but up. So taking a starting point and fixing it will work to solve a lot of other problems. It may be a simplistic point of view, but I honestly don't believe restructuring something like this is impossible or improbable. If members don't reach do because they don't have IRC (and many people on servers don't) or don't post it on these forums (which is quite a leap, adressing leaders you don't really know), ASK for feedback. Ponder about it. Consult your Instructors and Knights, who have a lot of one-to-one communication with Students, who communicate with others. The community is not out of touch with eachother. There's just a few broken links in our chain, and that needs fixing. On to the future. |
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Aron - Retired 
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I really understand Lian's point here.. It is true that the academy has changed a lot, even since i joined. Maybe it was necessary for the growth of the academy to the size it is now. A gaming community (yes, that is what it is too, now) of more than 5000 members is not just something. It requires a certain form of management, which isnt always easy, since we all started this because we have one thing in common: we like Jedi Knight/Star Wars, whatever. We are gamers. Some of us had enough of it after a while, maybe because of boredom, maybe because of the growing amount of lamers, and maybe because of the "change" in the academy. I feel almost ashamed of "only" hanging out on IRC now, and i think i should be. I already thought of re-installing JK2, and i will now. If we want the academy to be a fun place, we will have to do more than keep a "high-level management", who "manage" the things from "above" (irc, email, etc). I think every one of us, no matter what rank, should try to act simple, and play the game once in a while, even if its for just a couple of minutes every few days. Being actually "mad" at the JAC? No, i don't see why, really. Believe me, they themselfs are also dissappointed in some things. It isnt easy to handle such a large community, without trying to set up a "management". The academy still IS a great place, which is what it was all about for the Council. Every decission they made was made for the sake of the Academy. This will remove the feeling that there are somewhat different "classes": the playing class, and the people who make sure they can play If some of these decissions turned out to be the wrong ones, you have made a very strong point, and they are carefully considered too Again, i really love your post. Good job! ~ Thats my two cents.. What's yours? This comment was edited by Aron on Dec 03 2003 09:00am. |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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I have been at this Academy for almost two years almost everday (month gap of days added up) but still im an oldbie-i remember alot of the other oldbies,l-rod,hux as a jac ...hux joined shortly after i did-JAC's JAT's JAK's i have never ever been dissapointed at your magnificant work and strive to make the JO and Ja community a greater place. public servers are major BS and this place seems like heaven compared to it,Never give up never keep doing-there is always a bigger fish thank you everyone for such a great place keep up the hard work-sure life has its ups and downs but its all good _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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doobie - Jedi Council 
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Lian makes some very good points, as does DJ. We have gotten away from our goals and original focuses, and it does hurt (especially to me and DJ) when the oldbies say stuff like they were let down, or leave and don't feel comfortable discussing their problems (i'm talking to you, hux). DJ and I have put in a year and a half into this site, Whispy's put in a few months less, and there are people like JJ, Jacen, and c1 who have been around and been involved for so long that we can remember when L-Rod was a trainer! Anyway, that's a LONG time to be dedicated to anything, especially something that involves no pay, high stress, and lots o' time. So, speaking for myself and DJ (since I know he agrees with what i say), when someone says that the JA isn't living up to expectations, it's like a friend telling another friend that they're a disappointment. Even though the person making the comment may be exaggerating (although here Lian isn't), it still hurts like hell, but it also makes us want to improve. Yes, all five JACs have extremely busy lives, we're all either in college or starting in the real world, and we're not around as much as we should be. And for that I apologize to anyone who feels we are letting them down, because we are. But I don't feel that we are ignoring anyone's suggestions (and as for huxley, i honestly don't remember that for back, but i for one remember him having tons of great ideas). I don't have much else to say that will change anyone's opinions other than to say that next semester I for one will be around a lot more. I have an incredibly light course load and will be able to *gasp* even hop on the servers every now and then. But until then I'm going to talk to my fellow JACs, along with the JATs and JAKs and come up with ideas to streamline and improve the academy and then present our ideas to the student body for their opinions. This I promise to you, and Lian, we haven't talked all that much before, but I am one JAC who always keeps his promises (not that the others don't of course ). _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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Wesn't deleted. Site bug. Sorry hehehe. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Lian Del Rey - Student 
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Hmm, looks like somebody deleted this.. or something. _______________ slorp |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council
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I wouldn't think of deleting this topic. I like settling these out in the open. I completely agree that we've become more of a hangout than a school lately. The oldbie in me screams in rage at that fact. My other half realizes this happens when you get so big and when some of our processes are fundementally flawed. We've got quite a few more members now. Alot of our oldbies have moved on to other games (or other computers that can't play games in my case ), but still hang around because they've made friends here. Some people come here just so they can play on a lamer free server, which I fully support. Some come here to learn though and I do feel that while we're still trying, we can do *much* better.When JA came out we kind of halted and tried to restructure for the new game. That restructuring only 1/2 way happened. We kept telling ourselves that things will work themselves out in the end. They never did, and now we have only a handful of JATs. I think we need to double the ranks of teachers, but now we have trial processes to go through. In the old day if the JACs trialed someone for JAT (yes we use to perform the trials back in the early days ) we'd find the guy, give him 3 quick duels and an interview. If we liked what we say they were a JAT. As we grew we created processes for trialing and for escalating through Knighthood to become an instructor. I believe this has given us some fine knights and some fine instructors, but now that theres no process in place we don't have enough JATs. I can't just pick students like we used to out of respect for all the hard work it takes now to become JAK then JAT. Part of me *really* hates organisation and structure, but it may be necessary as we've grown so much, a LOT more than Doobie or I ever imagined.I'm sorry we led you around as potential staff. You're an excellent RP'er, and can do some good scenarios that others will really get into. My problems are twofold: a) you havent been around in an age (which is both our faults) and b) whenever I put you in charge of of an RP class or gave you any kind of authority I'd here reports of "Lian's being weird again" or "Lian is laming on the server", etc etc. I know you're doing what you think is right but to a 3rd party it came off as laming and rude. Some folks don't get your sense of humor, which is cool, but you must inderstand what that can lead to. Are the JAC's inactive? Yes and no. This has been my worst semester at school yet, trying to juggle full time work, school, here, and family. Doobie just found a job so he can keep his head above water while at school. C1 was unemployed for some time and recently found a job which he's working hard at. Daina is away for a few weeks while shes moving. Jacen's starting college again. We don't *want* to be inactive, and I don't want to dish out excuses to all of you. Maybe we need more JACs. Maybe the current JACs need to mobilize a little more. I hate seeing (and replying to) these kinds of posts. Nothing hurts more than seeing a respected oldbie individual, like you, Hux, or Ulic post about how they were let down by the academy. The academy is about growth, learning, and fun, not about procedure, inactivity, and indifference to others. I really want to fix this. Maybe we need another meeting. Maybe we need another meeting that we can all hopefully attend. Maybe screw the meetngs and I start assigning JATs and JAKs and start waving the JAC stick at a few ppl (myself included). I'm unsure of what to do at this point. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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JP - Academy Pimp 
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i dont know bout you bout i see Solo on the servers, and as for trainers i see luke on a ton. My only beef is that the JA servers are empty, but i dont blame anyone but the students for that _______________ Come on now, every Generation X boy wanted to be Luke Skywalker. Is it because he was a whiney farm boy from some backwater hack planet? No, it's because he was a FREAKING JEDI. He could block lasers with his lightsaber. He could levitate droids & rocks & crap with his mind. Come on, he choked two pig dudes with just a simple gesture. He cut off Darth Vader's hand and kicked him down a flight of stairs. He got his @$$ zapped by lightning from the geezer Emperor, stood up and said "s'at all you got b!tc#??" |
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