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Jedi Academy Society of Excellence
Jun 21 2003 07:48am

doobie
 - Jedi Council
doobie
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Mission Statement of the JASE
The purpose of the Jedi Academy Society of Excellence is to recognize
individuals who are striving for excellence within the Jedi Academy.
Students selected into JASE are highly respected among the JA by both
students and trainers alike. Their job is to help, teach, and maintain.
JASE students are always available if a student has a question or if a
trainer is in need of an assistant. JASE students are knowledgeable and
can share their knowledge in a clear, precise manner. JASE students are
aware of student activities and will promptly report any violation of JA
rules after negotiations fail.

JASE Organization

I. Founder
A. Oversees all JASE activity
B. Has final say in all JASE related matters

II. Co-Founders
A. Assistants to the Founder
1. Advise and participate in all major decisions
B. Oversee and run all Commitees
1. Select and organize commitee members

III. Commitees
A. Selection Commitee
1. Organize and run the selection process
2. Evaluate students
3. 5-10 Commitee members
B. Reports Commitee
1. Read and archive all student reports
2. 3-6 Commitee members

IV. Students
A. Active members of the Jedi Academy
B. Submit weekly reports

JASE Rules

1. Follow all JA rules
2. Adhere to the JASE Code of Honor
3. Always tell the truth
4. Take responsibility for actions
5. Be on time to appointments
6. Make and keep promises
7. Respect students and trainers
8. Always more praise than critique
9. Do not brag or boast
10. Take suggestions with gratitude
11. Be open to questions
12. Know the answer
13. Always strive to become better
14. Be active in the Jedi Knight community
15. Continously train others
16. Always seek to develop relationships
17. Be skilled in all weapons and game modes
18. Develop a specialty
19. Fill out and submit weekly reports
20. Bring honor to the JA and JASE

Code of Honor
Commit Yourself To Excellence
Characteristics of Excellence
Honesty
Integrity
Respect
Humility
Knowledge
Commitment
Comradery
Proficient

JASE Weekly Report

JA Name:
JASE Position:
Date:
Servers Played On:
Date and Time of Play:

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-Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament
-I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me

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Jun 23 2003 06:43am

doobie
 - Jedi Council
 doobie

Just to reiterate what I already reiterated, this is an UNOFFICIAL group run by students for students. The administration is only offering help getting it off the ground, nothing more nothing less. Don't get your panties all in a bundle, if you don't like it you don't have to participate, and don't need to be afraid that JASE members will have some sort of official function in the JA: they won't :)
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-Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament
-I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me



Jun 22 2003 06:17pm

Monteeeeeee
 - Nugget
 Monteeeeeee

i still dont see any reason for it :\
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Jun 22 2003 06:01pm

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
 - Student
 DaRtH-MoBiLiTy

Just quickly, I want to thank everyone for your input. We knew there would be mixed emotions about JASE.

Jim,
I agree with you on focusing on adding new servers and building the community. Part of being in JASE is a committment to promote JA Awarness on public servers and elsewhere. With the JASE comes a brand spanking new 32 client server on a 10GB stream, serving with duel 2.4 Xeon processors. This server is in Florida. In testing, so far we have seen some incredible pings from distant folks, i.e..Kenji Kamadake in Japan reported that he has never had a lower ping. We will be live with it shortly. This is a donation to the academy. We are not here to claim rank and this is the last time I am going to say it.

We hope the JASE develops into a fantastic support system of the JA and we hope to gain your support in this.

-DM-


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Jun 22 2003 04:19pm

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

rock on jimbo :) you own.

About this bit:

"it would just kinda be people that are on the servers alot and want to keep order cuz theres ussually trouble when JAKs Ts and Cs arent around."

solving conflicts. Good good, this is a good thing, solve those conflicts. The sad fact is that most conflicts end up coming down to admin powers since some people simply cannot be talked down. So picture this...

A lamer is on the servers, lets call him Sith DJ(pure coincindence :)) and there are 2 JASE people on. What do you do ? you've asked him to calm down, stop swearing, stop chatkilling, stop gunning in temple and doing loads of other naughty stuff. Thers no JAK's, JAT's or JAC's in server or in IRC. What do you do ? The only thing you could possibly do, becasue all the people in this JASE group seem to be very skilled as thats one of the elements they are chosen on, is fight back and subdue Sith DJ to stop him causing trouble. If you want a demonstartion of something like this go to one of the many FFA servers out there where over half the people on the server stand around just waiting for someone to make a mistake so they can hack em up.

<Not related to JASE topic>

Back to JiM's point. People are becoming a bit too reliant on the academy for their playing fix. We all need to play publics more, and get out in the community, not claim we are the best part of it but hide away.

Don't you get bored sometimes of jsut fighting the same people ? (the people which are on at the same times as you all the time). I could go off on a whole other rant about the dueling focus here, but I'll save that for another day :)



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Descended from a line of great Jedi
Will argue any point of view from any side :D


Jun 22 2003 03:44pm

DoriaN
 - Ex-Student
 DoriaN

Hmmm, looks to me like this is just some scam for certain people to climb up the ranks faster. Frankly, this ja is to help people play the game better on public servers and what not. We must get out of this obsession with academy and obtaining high positions. Just play the game. I mean seriously, there really is no need at all for this jase idea. Most people never admit it, but everyone wants to be a teacher or a knight or a jac or a whatever. Stop preoccuping yourself with this, we've got jaks and jats pourring out of our hmpfs. Frankly, what we should really be considering is getting more servers, so we can hold more classes at the same times. Or to host different game modes. We don't academy policemen patrolling around, it's just a game.
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JiM

Jun 22 2003 02:09pm

SirBizNatch
 - Student
 SirBizNatch

it would just kinda be people that are on the servers alot and want to keep order cuz theres ussually trouble when JAKs Ts and Cs arent around.


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Jun 22 2003 12:33pm

Monteeeeeee
 - Nugget
 Monteeeeeee

i still see no solid reason for it? why do it when in theory any normal person would do this anyway?
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Jun 22 2003 12:11pm

Halendor
 - Ex-Student
 Halendor

I still think the JASE is just a copy of what the Academy already is. But please, revise the outline and we'll see :)

Jun 22 2003 07:30am

FaDed
 - Student
 FaDed

it's one thing to not be enthusiastic about it. it's another to not be enthusiastic, then give a reason or constructive criticism. just telling me that you don't like it isn't going to help.

Jun 22 2003 06:11am

MINDofSIN
 - Student
 MINDofSIN

I've got to say that I'm not too enthusiastic about the idea either.
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Jun 22 2003 04:49am

aph3x
 - Retired
 aph3x

im not just saying this cause zero is saying it...but i think this is a dumb idea :cool:

if you guys want to stand out....your best idea would probably be to stand out to each student 1 at a time. not by starting some organization that says your excellent all at once.

ok im kinda drunk so maybe this doesnt make sense. k


This comment was edited by aph3x on Jun 22 2003 04:53am.

Jun 22 2003 01:48am

Zero Akaine
 - Student
 Zero Akaine

i relly dont think his is a good idea but hey what can i do.
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Jun 22 2003 01:18am

Monteeeeeee
 - Nugget
 Monteeeeeee

arent we all here just to play a game? why make it more complicted? wot happpens when JK3 is out?? these things need to be thought of thoughourly ...... also no matter wot u say it will get nasty and i feel they will think they are above the rules........u can say im wrong but i know time will tell :)
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Jun 21 2003 11:49pm

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

what can I say ? I'm a messenger of the people :P Seriously, I just use my common sense, you should try it sometime :D
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Descended from a line of great Jedi
Will argue any point of view from any side :D


Jun 21 2003 11:24pm

Halendor
 - Ex-Student
 Halendor

Argh. I *always* agree with Jake. Bah. He always says the things I want to say and now he's so wise and I'm not :mad: (:P)

Jun 21 2003 11:20pm

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

oooooh thats not fair, hiding away in the JAK forum, go on, GO ON AND RUN !!!!
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Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased)
Descended from a line of great Jedi
Will argue any point of view from any side :D


Jun 21 2003 11:10pm

Aeth S'kray
 - Retired
 Aeth S'kray

I wanted to shut my mouth, but I still cant ;)

I just wanted to remind you guys of maintaining the "ordinary" student rank. There may be some students around here that might NOT get into JASE, so dont forget them. They are still equal "worth"!

And doobie, why not check the JAK-forum :)
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Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003

Jun 21 2003 11:00pm

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

No one is doubting that Monty, and they have said that its nothing like JAK, thats not my point. I still don't understand what its for :)

"Jake: it is true that there are students that already strive for these things. but it's not the entire JA. hopefully JASE can spark some more interest in the JA and jk2."

So you're saying that by setting this up, the amount of student helpfulness will increase ? Heh, I'm all for that. It does still sound kind of elitest, and although I know its not intended or endorsed this way, people will still hold the people in this thing as some sort of rank or importance


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Descended from a line of great Jedi
Will argue any point of view from any side :D


Jun 21 2003 10:51pm

Monteeeeeee
 - Nugget
 Monteeeeeee

i wanna just say that there are a few of us JAK that work real hard, more harder than all of u can possibly think, we have RL too but we dedicate our time to keep this community in good shape, :)
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Jun 21 2003 10:44pm

FaDed
 - Student
 FaDed

wonderful, now that you all have had your say, can we start to revise the outline?

Jun 21 2003 10:42pm

doobie
 - Jedi Council
 doobie

Just another clarifier. This is an unofficial organization. We're effering to help them, but in no ways should anyone see this as an "official" part of the academy. it's just a chance for some students to set up an organization to promote excellence, nothing more, nothing less.
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-Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament
-I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me


Jun 21 2003 10:27pm

Menaxia
 - Student
 Menaxia

I'm not sure about this. I agree with (what apears to be) many a JAK's position, and think this is exactly like the knights and as such is verging on the pointless. Would it not be an alternative to have a JASE award instead? Or perhaps form a 'student union'?
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This is not the place to look for me

This comment was edited by Menaxia on Jun 21 2003 10:29pm.

Jun 21 2003 10:15pm

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

Since we're making little groups here, why don't we make the J-Men official :) Its kinda the same thing when you think about it..... Not anyone can just join, you have to be chosen (have J for a name :))

sorry but this does seem kind of unnecesary, doing all the jobs you listed should be standard practice. About comapring this stuff with Knighthood, personally I still hold the knight rank as pretty much the same as student, cept people know you more which is kind of a pathetic reason.

Aeth said to stop whining about it, so I'll do just that, since you have the council's say so I'll stand by the decision, best of luck to you :)
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Descended from a line of great Jedi
Will argue any point of view from any side :D


Jun 21 2003 09:46pm

Kueller
 - Student
 Kueller

Well, I think it is worth the try as long as we're not getting sort of uber-students that run the server. And I still think JAK's should be able to tell JACE members what to do, as they are still students and JAK's got more authority as they are chosen by the council and I have mroe faith in the council/JAT's than in this thing. Not because I don't trust you guys, but because they have been around longer and know the drill.
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Jun 21 2003 09:25pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Good points Aeth.

Your last section-> If it's decided that's it gonna get made, then you're right, keep an eye on them, don't take away their motivation, use your experience as JAK's/JAT's/mææhs/whatever to give them advise on how to do it best possible.

Jun 21 2003 09:17pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Do I really need a JACE tag, people call me it already..... :P

Sorry, couldn't help it. :)

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