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DO WE SWITCH TO MOUNT AND BLADE? (SERIOUSLY)
May 01 2011 05:37pm

solitude
 - Jedi Council
solitude
Proposal:

There will be no JK4. We switch to MOUNT AND BLADE (http://store.steampowered.com/app/48720/ £14 for the complete thing) running the excellent STAR WARS CONQUEST mod (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=40510.0).

YEA OR NAY?
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This post was edited by solitude on May 01 2011 05:39pm.

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May 10 2011 08:39pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

Democracy will hit TJA when JK9 is released.
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May 10 2011 05:54pm

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

:jax:
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May 09 2011 01:27am

solitude
 - Jedi Council
 solitude

Quote:
I'm guessing the consensus is nope?


As if we ever let democracy get in the way of anything.
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May 08 2011 06:04pm

Cuthalion
 - Padawan
 Cuthalion

I'm guessing the consensus is nope?
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May 06 2011 09:47am

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

Quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQPPbnm9-LM

Surely you can't be serious, it looks more like an RTS than anything else.

It really doesn't at all.
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May 05 2011 10:58pm

Everon
 - Student
 - The winner!!!
 Everon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQPPbnm9-LM

Surely you can't be serious, it looks more like an RTS than anything else.

There's a source mod that focuses solely on Star Wars, Star Wars: The New Era.

Check it out.

May 04 2011 09:25pm

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

Quote:
I actually sometimes hope that they're not developing a sequel to the JK games, mostly because of the current market situation - if you take that into account, the game will inevitably end up being a button smashing hack'n'slash a la TFU.


i think thats the case. there is just no demand of realistic or semi-realistic fighting game.
a few years ago dark messiah was released. ofcourse it had its problems, but its surprising that people didnt mod it to death. nobody heart of any other semi realistic fighting game ever since. except maybe mount and blade.

majority just want to press a button and see their character perform a flashy attack.
notice how every noob in jka uses katas exclusively.

that ut3 mod looks promising, but it looks like it needs a lot of work. i mean its already after what... 7-8 months of development and effectively it looks like ut3 with different guns.
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This comment was edited by SaZ on May 04 2011 09:27pm.

May 04 2011 07:36pm

Hugo
 - Student
 Hugo

Hm, that mod looks quite good actually :)

edit: not that much .. checked utube :(


This comment was edited by Hugo on May 04 2011 07:43pm.

May 04 2011 06:24pm

JP
 - Academy Pimp
 JP

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No, looks nowhere near as good as JK4.
But JK4 does not exist.
Ment JK3 and JK2 looks better than this rubbish.

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May 04 2011 05:34pm

Degor
 - Padawan
 Degor

Mount and blade is a good game but mostly a good singleplayer game. It doesn't hurt to add it as a supported game. We will still be supporting jka anyway. I made a list of possible games and mods a while ago. Here is it again:

Quote:
Now about tja's future. Every beginning has it's end, that's true and the tja's jka3 period is ending now. Like others have said before. But this just means that it's time for something new. I suggest we keep tja focused on SW games/mods though. Though I would like to play some other games with you guys too. Remember L4D Masta and Vision? We totally should do that again! So here are my suggestions for games:

Games
-SWGemu: I like SWG a lot! Especially the Jump to Lightspeed expansion. And it would be absolutely awesome to play it with this community.

-SWTOR: Would be nice to play with this community but I probably won't be playing it due to monthly fees and because I don't have a job or anything. Plus space looks bad compared to SWG. While the graphics are charming I don't think they fit the SW universe.

-Battlefront 1&2: Fun games especially the second with the spacebattles. Would be fun to play from time to time but there aren't much possibilities if you know what I mean.


Mods
-SW: The New Era(Source engine): Probably the best bet, this mod merged with moviebattles source and they recently started working on it again.(link)

-First Strike(Battlefield 2142): Seems like a good alternative for battlefront.(link)

-Galactic Warfare(COD4): Very good graphics, true first person shooter.(link)

-SW: Spec-Ops(CSS): Showed potential but appears to be dead.(link)

Well there you have it. As you can see I keep track of a lot of games/mods. I'll let you guys know when something big happens. There's one thing left to say though. None of these mods are even close to the JK series experience, exept SW:TNE which might include a similar saber system. I am surprised that no one of the huge jk fanbase has taken the time to make jk4 in an opensource engine. I've been planning on modding/making a game myself for a long time and jk4 is one of the things I would want to make. If there isn't a jk4 in the next few years I might search a team and start on it myself. Anyway I think I've said enough for now!


Also important: We could support moviebattles too now that mbu died.

Even better: Some guys of the moviebattles team are making moviebattles for unreal 3 engine.
http://community.moviebattles.com/threads/35154-MovieBattles-III-Reveal-Trailer-%28No-joke!%29
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May 04 2011 08:14am

Augusta_Mintaka
 - Student
 Augusta_Mintaka

Unless Raven does it! Then it will be a considered a mediocre game by most people, but worshiped by us.
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May 04 2011 07:57am

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

I actually sometimes hope that they're not developing a sequel to the JK games, mostly because of the current market situation - if you take that into account, the game will inevitably end up being a button smashing hack'n'slash a la TFU.
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May 04 2011 06:01am

Jade Jedi
 - Retired
 Jade Jedi

Quote:
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No, looks nowhere near as good as JK4.
But JK4 does not exist.
Ment JK3 and JK2 looks better than this rubbish.
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May 04 2011 12:12am

Augusta_Mintaka
 - Student
 Augusta_Mintaka

I think the series will be revived one day, Kyle Katarn is a likable hero! He's like Han-Solo, but with no beard and not chaotic neutral!

JK4 - When it's done©®™
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This comment was edited by Augusta_Mintaka on May 04 2011 12:30am.

May 03 2011 10:23pm

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

Quote:
JK4 is a dream, no matter how much any of us want to see it just isn’t happening. One day with JK forgotten someone may decide it's a good idea to make a JK style game but it won't be part of the JK series that we all know and love.


i wouldnt give up yet.
there was quite a delay between jk1 and jk2 - 5 years. then 1 year till jka.

now i imagine we are great fans of the series so... do we want to be worse than starcraft, diablo or duke nukem fans?
ofcourse not. so we will definitely wait.
15 years sounds about right...

jk4 in 2018.
pretty soon dont you think? xD

we can go even more extreme with something like bionic commando - 20 years...

2023. xD
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This comment was edited by SaZ on May 03 2011 10:25pm.

May 03 2011 03:24pm

Coogee
 - Student
 Coogee

For me TJA has always been about people, yeah I came for the game all those years ago but I stayed for the people and I keep coming back from time to time for the people.

In all the time I've been a gamer I've never come across an organisation like TJA. In part I think it was born from the unique nature of the games and people’s attitudes toward the license. Ironically the closest organisation I've been in is a guild where you have that camaraderie.

JK4 is a dream, no matter how much any of us want to see it just isn’t happening. One day with JK forgotten someone may decide it's a good idea to make a JK style game but it won't be part of the JK series that we all know and love.

Fact is that the people have/are moving on and they will move whatever is decided, the question is does TJA become a part of this or become irrelevant and forgotten?
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May 03 2011 12:39pm

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

Let me recommend you Starcraft 2, honest Eckyman.
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May 03 2011 12:06pm

Eckyman
 - Student
 Eckyman

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Classes for TOR will make (almost) no sense, the hierarchical structure of the JA as we know it will be useless. TOR will reduce the JA to just another guild, something that we tried to avoid in JKA, i.e. becoming 'just another clan'.


Speaking as someone who has played a LOT of MMO's for the last 6 or 7 years, I think Mastz00r's above quote is spot on. More so than perhaps a lot may believe.

Training will consist of,

"Don't stand there when that boss does this move"

or,

"No, no.. press 1, 2 THEN 5. Then go back to 2. That's how to get maximum damage per second for that class type"

I used to tank for my guild and training/advice to other tanks would be..

"check out this list of gear/stats. You need at least that much to go into this raid instance"

or,

"maximum threat rotation starts with 'x' move instead of 'y' move."

..or various random strategies for fighting bosses, which as a tank mainly involve where you position the boss, which way to make him face etc. Boring stuff and not related to a players skill or improvement hardly at all in comparison to JK training.

I'm not overly keen on what I have seen of Mount & Blade to be honest but it's at least closer to the training aspect TJA has.

Personally I can't see me playing ToR for that long because it looks exactly the same game mechanics as the last stack of MMO's I've played, just with a fresh lick of paint. I'll play a tank for my guildies for a bit but I think I'm done with games like this for good till the combat resembles something more hands on than current MMO's do.
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May 03 2011 10:38am

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

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P.S I'm on the quest, the absolute victory is my goal, I have only one gear, I'm not bi-polar guy, I'm by-winning guy


gg lol

TJA will never die anyway. i still talk to some TJA people once in awhile, with some i even play videos games (namely league of legends). next games on the list ill truly enjoy playing online will be diablo 3 and gw2. probably ill meet TJA members there as well.

imo even if JK4 comes in 10 years there is a big chance we will see each other again lol.

i wonder what next star wars game will be after swtor?
i mean they regulary release something new.
i hope its not force unleashed 3... but for example battlefront 3 i think would appeal to TJA crowd much better.
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This comment was edited by SaZ on May 03 2011 10:45am.

May 03 2011 07:56am

Augusta_Mintaka
 - Student
 Augusta_Mintaka

Mount & Blade is fun, but the combat system is very simple compared to JKA. Perhaps make a separate forum for it while we sacrifice goats to the Lucas Arts gods for JK4?
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May 02 2011 11:47pm

Maher
 - Jedi Knight
 Maher

Masta said almost everything what has to be said.
Except that MBU community doesn't exist anymore :P

Due to MBII devs set up a permanent time-limit to every gametype and they ruined the sabering system. Maybe MBU administration thought otherwise, but this is atleast why I quit playing MBII.

Nowadays MBU has changed to Starwars Universe(based on mod of SWG called SWGemu), which has also put on hold. Reason totally unknown to me, but I guess, because we are only human and we can't diverse ourselves in space/time continuum.

Also I want to sharpen the edge of idea of patience and learning and evolving, so we wouldn't need to invent time travel.

If I seem like a hypocrisy cuckoo and a guy who never answers to the problem, you are free to take your demand of "my resign" for the council and see up what they decide. I do whatever my leaders tell me to do due to I respect every member, their wishes and the system of this community. However It does matter who's JAK and who's not, due to It decides is system working or not and is the system reliable.

Lately none of my padawans nor the new students has come to my profile "I want to play JKA with you" or "I have an interesting theory to cheer JKA's activity up" or "Get active!" "Get on MSN or X-fire" or "Lets assure that there's many different ways to approach me, you need to just post it up to my profile, my padawans know how to approach me and yeah, It is my profile"

Whatever happens, I still support Mount&Blade+Starwars Conquest mod. We can have even 5 different starwars games.

The Key thing is to keep this community running so I can come back after 10 years to say "w00t these awesome guys are still here."

Believe from me whatever you want, but I still love and hate you all equally.

- Maher Senatu

P.S I'm on the quest, the absolute victory is my goal, I have only one gear, I'm not bi-polar guy, I'm by-winning guy :D

*takes a pill*
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May 02 2011 11:44pm

Mic Den Octela
 - Student
 Mic Den Octela

What about this:

-We maintain a focus on jk3/2.

-We support a TOR branch of TJA.net, incorporate the communities together.

-we support a M&B Star Wars: Conquest branch, incorporate the communities together.


We don't lose anyone, change anything OR lose sight of purpose.

We DO gain more members due to a wider range of interests and activities, increased support for everybody AND get to play more games together. Thus having more fun. Which is the 'prime directive' of TJA if you will.
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May 02 2011 11:38am

Laziana
 - Jedi Instructor
 Laziana

Quote:
No. NoNoNoNoNo.


No :)


Just because it reminds me of my recent Portal 2 experiences so much, I support this statement 100 percent!

Ok, to be honest: it would look good, but I am not fond of the idea of having a mod from a game be our central point of interest.

Also I am still skeptical about TOR and how we will be able to include our TJA community's spirit into it. But only time can tell.

With that said: Stalemate detected. Please press the Stalemate Resolution button.
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May 02 2011 11:03am

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

That was our intention all along if JK4 were to be released.
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May 02 2011 10:10am

Dark D'Kana
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 Dark D'Kana

it would be worse to carry the same principals to a new game, whatever it may be
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