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doobie - Jedi Council  |
As most of you know (or who know who I am), I'm pretty much a silent partner in the JA at this point, but that doesn't mean I don't care. So here's what I'm wondering... in the absence of a new Jedi Knight game (c'mon Lucasarts, hook us up!), what can we do to keep the JA alive and thriving? Do we expand into other games? Do we simply exist the way were are as a "family" and accept that the training part is diminished as the game fade away a bit (let's be honest, it's been over 3 years since JK:JA came out)? Let me know what you think and how we can keep this place alive and keep the awesomeness that's been around for almost 4 years going well into the future. _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
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doobie - Jedi Council 
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Just an FYI, we're having conversations as we speak about actually implementing some of these suggestions... yay! _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
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Pink_Mintaka - Student 
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Quote: *and of curse snatch some of Pink's chiken* f00d!
Aww. 
Quote: -Either put focus on a new game.
Meh, in the long run it might be needed. But for now, I think we can get enough fun out of JA/JO to keep this place nice and fruitful. Quote: -Start 'clubs' for different games here at TJA, where people who play the same game online can get together and arrange things for it, maybe get a server running if that game is popular enough etc.
Same answer as above really. Quote: -Run some events for JKII and JK:JA, i'm sure there are plans for when v3 is released, and sometimes members do not show enough interest in events, however i'm sure if timed, planned, and executed correctly a series of events would work well.
Agreed. Quote: -A party. Any party. Possibly including nachos.
Mmmmmm, nachos... Quote: -Rotate the maps on the servers, or just do something crazy on them full stop, out of the ordinary stuff can make people interested.
I like this idea. Sure, when v3 is released we'll all be like little school girls and whatnot, but in time we will get bored of v3 just as we are of v2 now. Switching maps frequently could give this place some variety. Quote: -In the unlikely case you are not doing this, try trialing some prospects for new staff positions, maybe get creative and create a staff position for a JKII expert, there is bound to be one with time to spare, and it probably wouldnt be a demanding job.
Hmm, I'm not entirely sure how this would help increase activity. Quote: -Perhaps redux some competitions, or make new ones, give realistic, quirky rewards, such as honorary titles to the winner, even if they do not keep the title indefinitley i know from other forums that a simple thing like a title can make events/competitiopns a bit more fun.
I like this. Quote: -Maybe have one or two new really crazy classes, i know back in the 'golden days' there were some really quirkly classes, and i'm sure that our current JAT have not used up all their ideas yet.
That would awesome. I bet I could even find some time to get there on a pre-set time. Quote: -While upping the amount of server events is important, some new forum events would be great too.
Perhaps, but I can't really think of anything to do that is along those lines. Quote: -A JKII event week, a series of events based around JKII, could be called nostalgia week, yet for some members might give them a new experience if they have JKII but were not at the academy at the time. A limited edition class, staff appearences, server events, a competition, a tourney, old maps, any of these things could pull a few people onto the servers, especially if 'advertised' correctly.
That would be awesome if pulled off. Quote: -Find some way to reward members who spend a lot of time on the servers.
It's worth a try I suppose. Quote: -Instagib.
Yes. Definitely. This should be done as soon as possible. I suck at guns, but I love CTF, so insta was always a perfect way for me to enjoi my CTF without getting pwnt by the 1337 CTFers. This comment was edited by Pink_Mintaka on Jan 24 2007 10:02pm. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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I completely forgot about that Instagib (the JK2 version though) and I remember playing it with Jacen Aratan on the JK2 server once.
I liked it very much and should you decide to put it back on, I'll surely hop on for a game or two, hehe _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Alex Dkana - Staff 
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Quote: Let's stay more on topic please
More ideas are welcome. There have been quite a few ideas put forward, even if some are not considered long term solutions. I have gotten very little feedback from anything i have said, and i havn't seen that much feedback for others ideas either. -Either put focus on a new game. -Start 'clubs' for different games here at TJA, where people who play the same game online can get together and arrange things for it, maybe get a server running if that game is popular enough etc. -Run some events for JKII and JK:JA, i'm sure there are plans for when v3 is released, and sometimes members do not show enough interest in events, however i'm sure if timed, planned, and executed correctly a series of events would work well. -A party. Any party. Possibly including nachos. -Rotate the maps on the servers, or just do something crazy on them full stop, out of the ordinary stuff can make people interested. -In the unlikely case you are not doing this, try trialing some prospects for new staff positions, maybe get creative and create a staff position for a JKII expert, there is bound to be one with time to spare, and it probably wouldnt be a demanding job. -Perhaps redux some competitions, or make new ones, give realistic, quirky rewards, such as honorary titles to the winner, even if they do not keep the title indefinitley i know from other forums that a simple thing like a title can make events/competitiopns a bit more fun. -Maybe have one or two new really crazy classes, i know back in the 'golden days' there were some really quirkly classes, and i'm sure that our current JAT have not used up all their ideas yet. -While upping the amount of server events is important, some new forum events would be great too. -A JKII event week, a series of events based around JKII, could be called nostalgia week, yet for some members might give them a new experience if they have JKII but were not at the academy at the time. A limited edition class, staff appearences, server events, a competition, a tourney, old maps, any of these things could pull a few people onto the servers, especially if 'advertised' correctly. -Find some way to reward members who spend a lot of time on the servers. -Instagib. These are just a few ideas i thought of, off the top of my head while writing this, some of them have been said before, and plenty of them would not be long term ideas, however at this point i think anything should be looked into if it adds some bounce to the community. I agree with Jaiko that some of us will be here until the day this forum is taken offline, and the nature of this wonderful community means that for some it will never die, or cease to be, however in the meantime we should drag the last dregs of fun we can get out of the Jedi knight games, and give it a proper seeing off, if it is dying at all. Now hows that for back on topic? /endwaffle E: Added Instagib to the list. _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana This comment was edited by Alex Dkana on Jan 24 2007 05:33pm. |
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R2D2 - Staff 
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Let's stay more on topic please
More ideas are welcome. _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: i'll be there with thermal det to represent the n00bside
thermal dets are for noobs! *cough* i mean for pros!!! all you need is a saber and a few buggy attacks... but uhhh anyone found a solution for this thread? Lol _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on Jan 24 2007 06:57am. |
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N@TI - Student 
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I told you before.....even if you all leave tommorow im going to be sat on the remains of this site, on my rocking chair with a little "Jedi Academy" flag.
Viva La academy! And I'll probably be sitting next to you eating chicken. I'd say i'd be there too, but then i'm sure everyone would say they would be thre, and it would undermine the whole point! However i would be there, dancing around like a lima on steroids. and i'll be there with thermal det to represent the n00bside >.< muhahahahahaha *and of curse snatch some of Pink's chiken* f00d! _______________ Blue! blue stance for ever!!! oh ye : owner of dash's "GOM!!11!! it's purple'" *1800* comment!!! owner of Wicek 3333rd "cool guys use Yellow sabers" post. Kyle Katarn is the new jedi order BattleMaster... meaning he is better then Luke in saber fighting! HA TAKE THAT SKYWALKER FAN's! This comment was edited by N@TI on Jan 24 2007 12:42am. |
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Alex Dkana - Staff
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I told you before.....even if you all leave tommorow im going to be sat on the remains of this site, on my rocking chair with a little "Jedi Academy" flag.
Viva La academy! And I'll probably be sitting next to you eating chicken. I'd say i'd be there too, but then i'm sure everyone would say they would be thre, and it would undermine the whole point! However i would be there, dancing around like a lima on steroids. _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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Pink_Mintaka - Student 
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Quote: I told you before.....even if you all leave tommorow im going to be sat on the remains of this site, on my rocking chair with a little "Jedi Academy" flag.
Viva La academy! And I'll probably be sitting next to you eating chicken. |
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Jaiko D'Kana - Student 
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I told you before.....even if you all leave tommorow im going to be sat on the remains of this site, on my rocking chair with a little "Jedi Academy" flag.
Viva La academy! _______________ The greatest discovery of my generation is that a human being can alter his life by altering his attitudes of mind. William James (1842 - 1910) |
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JP - Academy Pimp 
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Quote: This community is, and always will be, fantastic. Enjoy it folks, because it won't be around forever.
 forever is a longer than our lifetimes..so of course...but i damn well expect to be talkin in these forums for a very very very long time...cause as doobie said...we're a family...and i dont kno bout you...but i dont plan on ditching my family ever...<3 yall _______________ Come on now, every Generation X boy wanted to be Luke Skywalker. Is it because he was a whiney farm boy from some backwater hack planet? No, it's because he was a FREAKING JEDI. He could block lasers with his lightsaber. He could levitate droids & rocks & crap with his mind. Come on, he choked two pig dudes with just a simple gesture. He cut off Darth Vader's hand and kicked him down a flight of stairs. He got his @$$ zapped by lightning from the geezer Emperor, stood up and said "s'at all you got b!tc#??" |
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SilkMonkey - Distributor of Cold Ones 
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If everyone comes here, we can have a parking lot BBQ behind my appt. _______________ |-HK-47 -SilkMonkey: You are receiving a warning for being_too_sexy. If you do not stop, action will be taken against you.|| (11:13:43) � Virtue dances for Silk ||Smiling owner of Smilykrazy's 6000th comment =) ||Odan Wei's Proud Big Brother|| Janus is my official TaruTaru Cuddly Animal Type Person. ||(@Virtue) Or you could just be a man and set fire to your genitals.....you won't fall asleep for days after that.......trust me.||Thomas Skywalker er for sexy for sitt eget beste!!!!| Not changing sig until the JA loosens up. (Started: Aug 31, 2005) |
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Alex Dkana - Staff 
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Nachos are goooood. _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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aph3x - Retired 
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Quote: Enjoy it folks, because it won't be around forever. what??!??! /me cries |
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Furi0us - Student 
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what we need is a party where we all sit in a backyard drinking beers and eating nachos and possibly some bbq shapes because they are the bomb diggity
that will liven us all up _______________ You are not your f***ing system specs. You are not your uptime stats, your script file, or your oversized desktop screencap. You are not your broadband connection. You are not your f***ing post count. |
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planK - Jedi Council 
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You know, I just spent fifteen or so minutes on wireplay with a couple of people and had a blast. I guess that's because I haven't played in so long, but seriously, JKA is such a fantastic game! Can you think of any other game with such in-depth melee combat mechanics? I think not, fanceh pants!
Seriously folks. If you ever need a break from World of Warcraft or whatever damn thing you play, look towards JKA. It's such a deep, rich game and you should enjoy it! Hell, ignore the outside community and stick to The Jedi Academy if you have to, if you think it's full of morons and shoddy mods. This community is, and always will be, fantastic. Enjoy it folks, because it won't be around forever. |
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Alex Dkana - Staff
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Lets just have a random, big gorram party or something. Maybe on JKII as a warm up before v3 comes out? 
Personally i still think the best use of the renewed interest in JKII is to have a staff arranged event week, maybe with the aforementioned party, that ways even if interest in it does only last a small amount of time, then at least it will prove memorable. Oh and after having another look through the JA photo album i think there should be a new prom or something perhaps to go with v3's release, seeing as all us 'nooblets' who have still been here a fair while now missed out before. _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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Hardwired - Retired 
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That is reassuring. Though your post was not such a streatch for such a missunderstanding. Considering we were discussing the JA's future.
- HW _______________ ::Nothing wrong with a little shooting.....as long as the right people get shot:: |
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Hardwired - Retired 
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The servers I play on have solid Rules against laming, racism, etc., the usual stuff that makes it hard to play on a public with no rules whatsoever.
Dude, sorry to break it to you, but the no-laming-rules annihilated the entire ffa community leaving only few honortarded 'grown-ups' 'chilling' and chatting with their sabers down pretending that they are true jEd4is while constantly watching over their server ready to kick/ban anyone who: a)disagrees with their opinion b)disagrees with their no-laming rules(which are dumb as ****) c)does not obey childish 'admin' requests d)plays the game as an FPS and not as The Sims 2. FPS == First Person Shooter And yes, JK3 == FPS. Dude. Hate to break it too you. But the FFA community is dead due to the game being old. That being said, this is a VERY big community. And the only viable way to keep order is to have rules. There are just too many factors (read: students) for it too work to everyones particular change. So the mass majority will always be looked after. I should also meantion that these "honortarded grownups" are most likely actually much older and with a much wider JA experience that you could possibly hope to reach. This place has been in service for a long while now. And will be in service long after you will leave us. The base idea for the JA was a secure and safe place for anyone to play their favorite game without the risk of some jerk shouting noob and whatnot at them. To be able to peacefully be able to duel with some friend and share some bits of life. Like pretty much any ordered community. If you don't get that, then why the hell are you here? So can we now leave your litte view of life and return to suggesting ways to renew? Yes? Thank you. - HW _______________ ::Nothing wrong with a little shooting.....as long as the right people get shot:: |
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Sho Koon - Student 
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Even though the game is an FPS, if they have a rule for fighting in a way (for example duels, and bows, etc) you should respect that. And if you get kicked because you cannot, that is your problem.
Besides not everyone wants to fight all the time. _______________ Proud owner of Malak's 50th and special 300th, Alex D'Kana's 3600th and 4000th, Laziana's 200th and [Jawa][Obi-Wan][SW]'s 1300th comment. |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: not the MOD itself that are bad news
well with such a nice community like ours there would be no problem right? actually no... saber combat is changed in to even more ridiculous than basejka. 'Nothing makes sense.' - SaZabi. if we want to use some other mods... those should be something totally different... mb2, upcoming kotf and maybe OJP. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Personally, the reason why i dislike mods is because they level the gameplay into complete inconsistency. Im pretty sure that mods are a game-enriching tool for people/communities that focus mainly on RP'ing or social interaction. However, for the others who would rather spend their time practicing/dueling, the use of mods might be a more of a game-breaking hinderance. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Dark. - Student 
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im up for a bit of instagib tbh. _______________ xfire: smithy182 |
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R2D2 - Staff 
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Quote: I also remember aratan and motrec doing ctf and instagib, those were good for a laugh too. Regarding CTF, the JAA CTF krew frequently has practice CTF matches which anyone is welcome to join. These practices are sometimes held on Jaktorow (JAA Euro server, server details on JAA forums), due to the fact that most of the people that play are Euros. The JA has a CTF server that is used from time to time if you gather enough folks Regarding Instagib, the JA CTF server did have the Disruption mod on it, but it was taken off in order to have a normal ctf server. I'm sure one of the JACs could put the mod back on that server every now and then for a week or two. _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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Esoteric Monk - Student 
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Quote: JA+ is what screwed this game in the first place.
admin mods + server-owning kiddie wannabe dictators = game-killer Yeah, but it's the people who abuse the MOD, not the MOD itself that are bad news. The servers I play on have solid Rules against laming, racism, etc., the usual stuff that makes it hard to play on a public with no rules whatsoever. It's just one MOD, though. _______________ "Who is more foolish? The Fool, or the Fool who follows?" - B.K. |
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