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Dec 31 2005 06:33am

O'Liin Onasi
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O'Liin Onasi
You know over the pst few months I have been noticing MANY problems here,and my question.Why The Hell? If we (and i mean We as we are a community) have a problem with each other,then Why The Hell dont we discuss and (the more important part) SOLVE the problem? Where im from people are raised to be respectable enough to atleast be honest.If we cant be honest with each other about OUR problems here then WHY i ask you ,Why The Hell are we here? Now I am a proud member of this academy.So proud in fact that I've posted this with the hopes that it may by some small chance help,but as others have tried to help this change come along, it hasnt.What change am i speaking of? The change that means people will respect each other.Not becasue they are admins,or padawans of admins,or friends of admins,but because of a mutual respect from MEMBER to MEMBER.With no other reason that just being members of the same community. So I say we get to the bottom of the real problems of the JA,and not just shift our vision to other problems.Like sploting, I know that there is a bit of problems involving sploiting,but is that really as deep as sploiting. I know I dont think so.I think,that problem has a bit more to do with certain people,and not as much love(sploiting).I say WE as a comminty have it out in a controlled way where everyone as EQUALS can voice their opinion,and as a community try to SOLVE the problems, and not try to hide them with others.Now I understand that might seem like aot of work, but ladies and gentleman, I am all for it.I say anything to help this place RUN SMOOTHLY.I know that this place is hiding alot of problems.Some we will never see the aftermath of. So, with that said. I say we meet together as equals, as member of the academy and nothing else, to try to help this place stand on its own two feet,solve some of its problems,and be friends once again. :)



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This post was edited by O'Liin Onasi on Dec 31 2005 06:45am.

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Jan 02 2006 08:40am

Alex Dkana
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if u did, man u rock :D


yeah i really did, that along with many others :P Thanks i guess lol.
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Jan 01 2006 08:05pm

Redeye
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 Redeye

Quote:
Quote:
Young man, there's no need to feel down.
I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground.
I said, young man, 'cause you're in a new town
There's no need to be unhappy.

Young man, there's a place you can go.
I said, young man, when you're short on your dough.
You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

They have everything for young men to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...

It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.


i blurrily remember dancing to that last night o_O

peace and <3 all


if u did, man u rock :D
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Jan 01 2006 05:15pm

AvaloN
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 AvaloN

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I shall now return to my Oliebollen and Appelflappen. (Dutch newyear's treats)


Muhaha, being Dutch is cooool

Oliebollen + appelflappen > all



Jan 01 2006 04:00pm

Alex Dkana
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 Alex Dkana

Quote:
Young man, there's no need to feel down.
I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground.
I said, young man, 'cause you're in a new town
There's no need to be unhappy.

Young man, there's a place you can go.
I said, young man, when you're short on your dough.
You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

They have everything for young men to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...

It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.


i blurrily remember dancing to that last night o_O

peace and <3 all
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Jan 01 2006 08:08am

R2D2
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 R2D2

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Young man, there's no need to feel down.
I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground.
I said, young man, 'cause you're in a new town
There's no need to be unhappy.

Young man, there's a place you can go.
I said, young man, when you're short on your dough.
You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

They have everything for young men to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...

It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.


Have you tried doing the YMCA while roller skating. As a little kid, many sore behinds I got that way :mad:
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Jan 01 2006 04:02am

SilkMonkey
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 SilkMonkey

I'll exploit Gradius!

*pulls down Gradius' pants*

Wait...thats just embarassing. Carry on. And lighten up everyone. No one forces you to play on our servers or forces you to continue to play with people who are beating you/others. Just something I did back in the day, even when I was on staff.

If people were unbeatable or something, I avoided them until I could get an idea for how to beat them. Anyway, keep it light, and remember to breathe. Please. =)
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Jan 01 2006 02:34am

Majno
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 Majno

Stfu, stop hacking on Gradius, I luw the guy, hes a saint to me, he helped me reach the galaxy far far away, when I was far away from reaching it.
So for that I nominate him for sainthood.
Gradius, stay cool bro, you're the shiznit.
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Jan 01 2006 12:38am

tarpman
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 tarpman

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2) Is it Gradius' fault?

YES IT IS
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Dec 31 2005 10:49pm

Sauce
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Young man, there's no need to feel down.
I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground.
I said, young man, 'cause you're in a new town
There's no need to be unhappy.

Young man, there's a place you can go.
I said, young man, when you're short on your dough.
You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

They have everything for young men to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...

It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

Dec 31 2005 05:49pm

Mindrith Pride
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 Mindrith Pride

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Well guys i appreciate your comments,but I wasnt really talking about exploits or troublemakers.I was talking about the problems that are beneath cause by these problems.People who use to be friends,and now aren't.Things like that,and yes I understand that this is the internet,but after all still doesnt mean that people cant respect the people they KNOW here.Yes ,we have over 10,000 member, but how many are actually active?
I just wanted to say this wasnt about sploitz as I think you some of you guys may have got the wrong idea about the post.I just wanted to test the strength of this place by questiong a morely sensative part about it. Oh ,and paragraphs WTH are paragraphs who uses them anyway,I never use paragraphs they confuse me .:D Quote:

As for respect, if people didn't respect eachother here, this place would probably be chaos, or just dead.
Not to go against the grain though sete,but there is a thin line between chaos and peace.It's all about the people walking the line.

Take care guys, and have a safe new year!:D

well tbh man, people dont stay friends forever, people argue and people fall out, its in human nature :( but as you and many others have said, we can "respect" the other members, and also i feel it is unfair to say that some or even a few of our members do not "respect" people. as lir said we have over 10k members (i think) and i feel that out of those 10k members it would only be say 20-40 people that do not respect the people and the whole academy. I for one try to be nice to everyone i meet and be respectfull, if i meet someone that i dont like, i atleast respect them and try to be civil, and i know that basicly everyone here does that.

hell, everyone that i know are very respectfull, people may come off as not being 'nic' to other people but i guess thats just their opinoun on the way they say thngs.

As for the whole 'Exploites' matter i really dont see whats wrong with them, sure i may get flamed for this but i feelits my opinoun. i do NOT poke, but i am agasint someone who does poke on a public server i dont go around shouting "OMFG!!! F***ING POKER NOOB, YOUR SO LAME" no i just duel him/her how i normally would and do not comment on the poke. as for the others like extensions ect i think that they are okay and they can be used, so long as they are not spammed. But if i respect the academys rules on the matter and try not to use exploites, but sometimes i just cant resist giving the old insta if my enemy leaves themself open :)

anyways i think i've blabbed on long enough on this matter, happy new year everyone :)
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Dec 31 2005 03:40pm

Ataris
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 Ataris

/me kissytackles all who write here!

ownt! :D:D

Happy new year guys, take it easy :)



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Dec 31 2005 03:35pm

O'Liin Onasi
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 O'Liin Onasi

Well guys i appreciate your comments,but I wasnt really talking about exploits or troublemakers.I was talking about the problems that are beneath cause by these problems.People who use to be friends,and now aren't.Things like that,and yes I understand that this is the internet,but after all still doesnt mean that people cant respect the people they KNOW here.Yes ,we have over 10,000 member, but how many are actually active?
I just wanted to say this wasnt about sploitz as I think you some of you guys may have got the wrong idea about the post.I just wanted to test the strength of this place by questiong a morely sensative part about it. Oh ,and paragraphs WTH are paragraphs who uses them anyway,I never use paragraphs they confuse me .:D Quote:

As for respect, if people didn't respect eachother here, this place would probably be chaos, or just dead.
Not to go against the grain though sete,but there is a thin line between chaos and peace.It's all about the people walking the line.

Take care guys, and have a safe new year!:D
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This comment was edited by O'Liin Onasi on Dec 31 2005 03:40pm.

Dec 31 2005 01:05pm

Lirael
 - Jedi Council
 Lirael

Although I’m sure most people agree with what you have said, respect does not necessarily go hand in hand with problem solving. We have over 10,000 members so it’s near impossible to get everyone to agree on anything but the most general ideas.
We have to agree to disagree. The academy is based upon respect and I think this is quite clear already. All this talk of problem solving could potentially let age old arguments re-emerge in what has been, in my opinion, a quieter period of the JA. The previous thread about exploits also had the ideal of solving the issue once and for all – but it didn’t – it was words, not actions. Respect is more than words and does not dwell on the past.

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Dec 31 2005 11:09am

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

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It would be a much nicer place if people would stop telling other people how to play the game. The whole crusade against the exploits is what made me stop playing on the academy servers.

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People have been using these so called "exploits" for years now, I have no clue why it's been discussed so much the past few months. It's a game. If you don't like how people play, don't play with them. 'Nuff said.

Not much to add there.
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Dec 31 2005 10:52am

Wolfwood
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 Wolfwood

Deja Vu anyone?

Seriously though, I agree with Gradius and Casual. It would be a much nicer place if people would stop telling other people how to play the game. The whole crusade against the exploits is what made me stop playing on the Academy servers. Which leads me to another point that a lot of people tend to forget. Respect has to be earned, it cannot be forced upon someone. With that said, I shall now return to my Oliebollen and Appelflappen. (Dutch newyear's treats)
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This comment was edited by Wolfwood on Dec 31 2005 11:16am.

Dec 31 2005 10:42am

Casual
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 Casual

Oh I was wondering when another one of these posts pops up, since it's been almost three months or something since the last one.

Gradius brings forth a good point. This is the Internet. The big WWW answers to "Why the hell?" with "Because.". Whenever one of these posts comes up, it's always about something bad happening in the Academy, usually due to the actions of a couple of individuals. Read the last words well. There's nothing wrong with the community. It has its ups and downs and lefts and rights like any conventional marriage does.

I know it's a toughy, but please people try to understand that JA is sometimes like a crap magnet and it seems like things are going real bad. That's a good thing. We need crap to make this place just a little bit more than a Home for Pink Fluffy Bunnies.

And respect is a nice thing as long as you don't force it down anyone's throat. I respect a great deal of good friends here. On the other hand, there are quite a lot of people here who I couldn't care less about. I admit that because I'm admitting I'm human. Not the Rodian wielding a sabre staff you might see in the game.

Remember, if you're ever thinking that something might be wrong with this place, consider the following first:

1) You are most likely delusional
2) Is it Gradius' fault?
3) Maybe you should just drop it and continue to aspire in your path to Jedi Greatness.

Now go and have a great New Year's party and stop worrying about the state of the Academy.

Cas
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This comment was edited by Casual on Dec 31 2005 01:07pm.

Dec 31 2005 10:25am

Gradius
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 Gradius

Welp, in all honestly, 2 words will answer your question of "Why the hell."

The Internet.

It's the internet, people can be who they want to be and do what they want to do (within limits of course). But in reality, the internet is just a form of entertainment, as is this community. People will choose to be nice to others, other people won't. People will always argue, because they're human. Nothing has changed between now and 6 months ago, or even before then. Only that there's more people pissing eachother off. If people would relax and stop shouting "SPLOITZ!" every 2 minutes, maybe there'd be less arguing and more people trying to have fun.

Seriously though, this whole "exploits" ordeal has gone on long enough. Let it go folks. It's not going to get any better the more you try to shove it in everyone's faces. People have been using these so called "exploits" for years now, I have no clue why it's been discussed so much the past few months. It's a game. If you don't like how people play, don't play with them. 'Nuff said.
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Dec 31 2005 09:46am

SaZ
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 SaZ

Olin for president!

really great post, i agree with everything. :)
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Dec 31 2005 09:35am

JamesF1
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 JamesF1

Seriously man, use paragraphs. That hurt my eyes!

Apart from that, I agree with Vasper and Sete :)
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Dec 31 2005 08:41am

Setementor
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 Setementor

Answer: Being honest and talking exploits over always ends in flaming, locked threads, or it just never gets anywhere. But don't worry, hopefully that'll all be cleared up soon.

As for respect, if people didn't respect eachother here, this place would probably be chaos, or just dead. I also agree with Vasper's comment.

Dec 31 2005 06:53am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

Great post and point M8.

I think most want to be and are respectful. But there are always those few that think just because they don't have to see anyone face to face, they can do and say whatever they want. Some say "Well it's just a game so what do I care." Other I think are too young to have a good grasp on what respect really is.
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