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State of the Academy Address Part 2 -Silent Whisper - Dec 16 02:23pm |
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Attention all students, staff, and trainers. It has come to my attention that several issues are running wild through this academy and causing havok. Today I hope to put these issues at rest. Let's get straight to the point.
First issue. I have been getting requests for JAT trials again. I'm going to remind everyone(again) that JAT trials are NOT to be requested. We see and know everything that goes on here. If you are to be a JAT, it is because the Council and other trainers feel that you would be a valuable asset to the team. A trainer is not just based on his/her skill, but character as well. RESPECT, ladies and gentlemen, is the ultimate quality of our Council and trainers. Speaking of Council, the same goes here. A new Council member is only elected if the existing Council agrees that he/she would uphold all the values of the academy. On an end note, I remind everyone that we are NOT hiring anymore JATs and JACs at the present. So do not ask. If you do the JATs and JACs can either ignore you or simply tell you no. Second topic. Because of recent actions taken against disruptive students, some of the student body has been questioning JAC and JAT integrity. May I remind you that any issue you have with a Council member or a trainer should be taken privately and not posted publicly. We promote fairness and freedom of speech but please, be professional about it. All ideas, comments, complatins can be sent to fixtheja@hotmail.com. I hope this has cleared up some confusion. I'm not much for conclusions so I'll just say train hard, keep your spirits high, and of course: May the Force be with you. |
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Vaughn - Student 
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Note: that was a really bad responce... _______________ When you become an actor, you become the person, and you dont act anymore. You just are. - Tyler HP, Taught by Mr G Simpson |
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Vaughn - Student 
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as i sit at my computer, wondering how i can add to the tread of responces and stories, all that i can think of is this;
Ulic. I may only be speaking for myself, but I cannot conceive the pain that you have felt over the past little while, described in your posts. Nothing that I can say or do will make, or help it become less painful, partly because i live so far away from you, and have not formally met you before. What I can do, is this - hope and wish that when you get better from this, you will learn how to avoid those kinds of relationships, and that you may be happy, or as happy as you can be, in your next one, even too the end (if there is one). now, i have not had an expereance such as this, so i cant give really good advice, or good advice for that matter, but what i can do is to suggest you listen to Monty Python's "always look on the bright side of life". Thats the advice that I got from a friend (my situation was not quite the sameas yours however...). The only other thing that i c an give, is go to someone, eg, your parents (if you can), or someone you trust, and talk to them about it. Thats probably what MRB did, unless im completly crazy. Other than that, all I can say is this: With your decision in life, make sure that you are happy with it, and may the force, be with you. _______________ When you become an actor, you become the person, and you dont act anymore. You just are. - Tyler HP, Taught by Mr G Simpson |
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doobie - Jedi Council 
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Holy Jimminy Crickets Batman!
Go to http://academy.jediknightii.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=31 to see my response to this thread (sorry, I just felt what I had to say was meaningful enough that it should start a separate thread on the forums.) _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me This comment was edited by doobie on Dec 18 2002 10:10pm. |
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Hector Thrawn - Ex-Student 
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first of all, i would like to state the only person i know in my family who ever had any dislike for you is my mom (and i cant blame you for not telling us what really happened to the sword either). however, if you can let something like this ruin happiness for you then in reality youve lost. i know i have had some hard times (although not as bad as ulics) but i found the best way to cope was to shake it off as another experience i had that made up who i was, or another obstacle that needed to be overcome. i wasnt implying you should always be happy and laughing, partly becasue that isnt possible, and partly because i have learned that for every up there is usually an equal down, so if you cannot handle ever being sad or angry to any degree then maybe happines and laughter isnt a good goal. if this is the case, try to be contenet, like the stoics, accept what has happened and accept that things (both bad and good) will happen to you regardless of your actions. but if you walllow in pain and anger you will become miserable. i almost did that, but i had friends who forced me out of it, showed me a brighter side of things, i hope everyone here at the JA (especially myself b/c i know personally) can manage to help you at least be contnent. given MRB has graduated, but true friends can be any distance away and still be with you where ever you go and i am sure that if you have problems she would be willing to listen to them (actually so would i, but you probably know that already)
PS(kind of) quote from "there's no easy way out" "some things are worth fighting for some feelings never die i dont want another chance i just want to know why there's no easy way out there's no short cut home... i see all the angry faces afraid that could be you and me tlaking about what might have been thinking aobut what used to be" so dont compromise your belifes, just figure out what you want to be when its all over, and find the best way to do it. This comment was edited by Hector Thrawn on Dec 18 2002 10:27am. |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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Wow looks like I picked the wrong day to check up on the news late in the day.
Ulic: I'm sorry to hear about all your troubles. I hope I speak for the majority here saying that we *do* appreciate and like you here. 
As for the issues raised in these comments... Personally I don't care if you're in the Academy to have fun or learn. The only people we really don't allow in are the ones who declare they want to 0wn all of us or whatever in their application. We need a kind of structure to keep classes and such going, but this is a game, so all of the people involved in the Academy, students, JATs, JACs, everyone, should be having a good time. The only time you aren't allowed to have fun is when your fun diminishes someone elses fun or their capacity to learn around here, within reason. Have we become too ranks/trials oriented? I definately think so. We brought ranks in because we thought it'd be fun and give students a lil more incentive to learn more at the game. I think we may have implemented the promotions system poorly though. IMO the current school is moving us away from a classes oriented system we used to have when we were smaller to a rank stair-stepping system that personally kinda irks me. Is there a widening rift between the students and the staff? I suppose so, but then again that makes sense considering there's so few of us and so much of you folks. I'd like some suggestions on how to bridge this and make the staff a little more democratic. Ulic does raise some good points though: signing up for JAT/JAC implies you agree to undertake a few responsibilities, right now these include seemingly endless trials, so hopefully that one will change. Like it was said in Saving Pvt Ryan: "the gripes go up". Really I don't want the students (and the teachers for that matter) to think that my or any other JACs door isn't open for them. It is OK to talk to one of us. Repeat: OK to talk to us. That being said remember why we're all here.. to learn, help others learn, and to have fun. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Ulic Belouve - Student 
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I guess I need to do this....so this may be more depressing....
I learned to laugh, learned to feel a lot of things. Learned to be happy with so much, so many things. Learned to be proud of myself too. I had just finished military training, and did a great job there. Then there was Sept 11th, a two-fold dark day for me. I became someone's strength, the happiness to go against someone's despair. So a relationship started. I learned to laugh and enjoy the laughter, as so many of you suggest I do. Sept 11th was darker for me, because it is where all this started. But I got entwined in the fun. And things got sour. I would compromise what I believed in. But, well, this female would not let me out of it, not let me leave. She threatened suicide if I left, and if I reported it, she would simply fake her way through therapy and kill herself after. she had faked her way through before. I found my self trapped by the fun and laughter, and did not see this until too late. Eventually, I could not put up with a girlfriend, or even a friend, who would maipulate me this badly. I was caught by the laughter and fun, and drawn into a shadowy world. And I couldn't get out of it, there were so many times I tried to let someone know, but she would simply shrug people's concerns off, then go back and cut herself. She manipulated the police to hate me, because I was a fighter, and a swordsman. She forced a search of my room, which contained Hector's sword that I had borrowed. They confiscated this, and despised me. I no longer had any leverage with authorities to get out of this horrid relationship. Eventually, I was sick of being her fun and her laughter. In a rage beyond any, I used all that I knew how to do, to rush at her on her way back from a party, and strike her. It was the only option left, I had been pushed to madness and desperation. The authorities at the college already hated me, and I was surely done for. No matter how many notes I turned over, of her detailing her desire to kill herself if I strayed from her grasp (which notes I still have, right here)...no matter how much I had, SHE was still the victim. All because I learned to laugh, learned to have fun. Hence, I am now in Milwaukee. I am still feared and hated. I am still shaking it off, as it was one year ago. The MRB that I give so much credit to under my profile, she was the only one to help me out in this. Now she has graduated, and I miss her so much now. So that's my life. That's why I don't smile so much, that's why I hate women. That's why I simply stay true to my goal of working, striving. I got lost in fun before, and that cost me. So I don't really laugh or have fun anymore. I paid dearly for the last time I pursued that. I lost all friends there, even Hector's family disliked me for some time. I got discharged from the military, so I lost that. And I got kicked out of that college (which was a gross bias too...ppl can steal my credit card and use it, a felony that gets no punishment, but hitting someone? Big time punishment.). I tried to be happy, but someone destroyed that. I thought I was truly a master of my element, but someone brought that down. So I seek peace in all of this. I can't be happy, because that brought me down. I can't be angry, because that brought me down. If I feel anything at all, I will go down. So I stay calm, peaceful, to all of you. So now that is the most depressing. But I've never really said all of that to anyone except for MRB. Hector now knows where his sword went to, and why I could never get it back (but we got it back after a long time). So, that's how I operate now. Factor in the MRB element, and then suddenly take that away, and you can see why I am in such a chaotic mode. So, I'll settle into my peace again. I can find some way. But I just can be so strange in transition. Thanks for letting me say all that. Yes, I did need to. _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. This comment was edited by Ulic Belouve on Dec 18 2002 12:15am. |
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Hector Thrawn - Ex-Student 
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yeah, ill agree with that as one of the most depressing post ever. however i would like to point out to ulic that if you learn to laugh at yourself you can have a bit more fun, god knows it helped me beyond most peoples comprehension. |
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Huxley - Retired 
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I think that is the most depressing post I've ever read on here Ulic.
I'm really sorry to hear you feel that way. May the force be with you always. -Huxley |
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Ulic Belouve - Student 
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Hmm...
I think it's this whole "fun" thing that gets me. I got good because that was my point. Was it fun doing kick-DFAs for an hour straight? No. But I got good enough to make the next rank. Was it fun falling into the pit for several hours until I got SOME sense of balance. No. But I got decent enough at it to make Knight. I decided to reach WAAAAAY back 3 years ago to something a friend wrote to me (yes, I archive all my e-mails, so....) --------------- I think I figured something out... you must have been deprived of laughter as a child... some things are just meant to be a joke, you know, funny! so you should try it some time! go ahead, start laughing right now... can't do it, huh? better practice because we enjoy laughter more than we enjoy declamation. so think what ever you want to, and keep those tables turning, it'll give you something to do while you practice your laugh --------------------- Well, that's the truth. I came for more than fun, more than the rank. I think I've really given up on fun, so... But if all we have is fun and ranks, then I guess I will give up being Knight, since that wasn't what mattered to me. All I ever do is work hard, train hard, and keep a shell over me most of the time, so that I look great. It's easier to make a shell online, really. I just never let go and have fun. It usually ends in a bad moment for me. So if you notice, I really only did training, and now that I am a Knight, I only train others. I realy don't have fun there or in real life. And the fun I have had, mostly gets ruined big time by a female. So, that may be why I lash at Silent. That's as good an explanation as any. I get way to deep for my own good. Deep enough that I wanted more from the Academy. But then, it's just a fun game, so I guess that's the end. _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. |
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Aayla Secura - Ex-Student 
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Using the KISS(keep it simple stupid) method:
1. A JAS should not fear to speak with or communicate with a JAT/JAC. We're all friends. 2. Patience is a virtue. 3. A rank has little to no bearing on your skill as a dueler/gunner. If you're more concerned about your rank than your contribution to the academy, perhaps you shouldn't be here. 4. Patience is a virtue. 5. If you feel a JAT/JAC is being abusive. Bring it up in email or on IRC, not with posts on someone's profile. 6. Patience is a virtue. |
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Hector Thrawn - Ex-Student
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going back to what ulic said (i just love to do that).
if you are in a crappy mood why should you go online and beat on some poor initiate? one of the things that ulic has tried to teach, both through posts and actions, is common sense: if you are angry, you really shouldnt take it out on others, even at the JA. also (althoug im not sure if he explicitly said this) if you find tormenting people in online games "fun" you are sick. i can uderstand enjoying winning, but there are much better applications for that sort of thing outside of the JA. as for the rank thing, put it into prespective: the JA will probably be around for a while, so ther is no rush for anyone to make JAS the first day, JAK the second, etc, etc. rank is supposed to represent growth. and growth takes TIME (besides if the academy is going to disapear any time soon who would care what your rank is) although i am sure someone said this before (i dont recall who) ill say it again: there is more to begin admiriable in online videogames than being able to push buttons faster than everyone else. |
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Huxley - Retired
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I agree that the JATs need to trial and do their responsibilites, but I haven't seen 'too many' incidents of that taking place.
Instead I see people yelling and getting mad that they didn't get the trial they wanted WHEN they wanted, and with the limited # of JATs to trial people, I don't think it is very considerate, and isnt any fun at all. ESPECIALLY since all the rank means is a different word under your name on the website, and doesn't mean that you are really any better than anyone else. Students beat JATs, JATs beat council members (sometimes  ) and JAKs can beat everyone from time to time. There is nothing that means you are a better player unless you PLAY more and learn more. There is NO limitation of classes to any rank, and there is no limitation to ranks learning more.
The ranks are there to add to the fun, not to take away from it like your implying Ulic. I think you have the wrong idea about what the ranking means, and what it signifys, which is only responsibilty. And when someone is yelling that they want their Jman trial, and the JATs are doing something else, or TRIALLING SOMEONE ELSE, that doesn't show responsibility or respect, and they will not be trialled, and that wont change. This comment was edited by Huxley on Dec 17 2002 04:05pm. |
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Ulic Belouve - Student
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"Have lots of fun, we enjoy fun, we love fun. Have fun! We will make everything as fun as possible. Have fun training and teaching! That's our number one priority."
Well, it seems as if the students are impatiently demanding trials, and the JATs and JACs are frustrated about all they have to do. Neither one of these demonstrates anyone having fun. I am proposing solutions in a lot of stuff, but I first went to tell the students to chill out, in some posts long time back. Now I'm telling the JATs and JACs to grow up and quit whining about the more stuff you have to do. Really, if everyone settles down and has fun, that woul be great. But we can't do that without addressing some issues, and that is what I write for. I think the "just have fun" is what makes for the anarchy of some of the public servers. I feel like being in a piss-ass mood, so I find fun in kicking the snot out of everyone, using any or all cheap means to do so. It's fun for me to do that in a bad mood. But whoa, I can't do that. Why? Because we have order here. And thus, we have a resposibility to maintain such order. Else, I can just go have fun and do what I feel like doing. So have fun WITHIN the boundaries of the structure we set up, not have fun AT THE COST OF the structure. But I just see where you have students complaining, JATs complaining, everyone complaining (even me, here), and it's just not fun anymore. And I think if we restore some structure in a way to satisfy the masses, in the best interest of the Academy, then we can all stop complaining and have fun. I am just pointing to obstacles to having fun, and they come from both directions, not just the impatient students. I just think that things need to evolve more. Else we will not be having as much fun. _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. |
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Hector Thrawn - Ex-Student
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HEAR! HEAR! i think hux (and dobbie i guess) has said it all. |
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Huxley - Retired 
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Ulic, its nice that you citied the question I asked you, and your response, but you entirly missed the point I was getting at:
JUST BECAUSE I'M A JAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CANT TALK TO ME! Especially since your a Knight, and that is part of your privledge of being a JAK, your 1 step from being a JAT, and you can even teach classes. There are 'ranks' and 'levels' here, but that doesn't mean you cant talk to people with a higher or lower rank than you. Your thinking too militarily and that is what is causing all this distress. In fact, since I think its been a while since everyone read the FAQ, or at all, I will quote MassaDoobie directly from it: We strive to teach our students not only the fundamentals of the game in regards to skill with the saber, guns, and force powers, but also to teach players how to conduct themselves in a civilized manner. Gamers have a bad reputation of being l33t, arrogant, and tempermental, and we hate that repuation, because the vast majority of games are fair, honest players. The Academy is a place people can come to play with fellow level-headed gamers, so they can maximize their enjoyment when playing the game, while hopefully improving enough to go out in the "real" world and quiet some of those arrogant people up with their skill. .-=(massadoobie)=-. With that being said (...again) I think everyone should remember what the great Master Doobie told us on the tablet of the magical FAQ page, and remember that everyone is here for the same reasons. We enjoy teaching, but if you are vulgar and inappropriate, we will kick you out and stop training you. We will be as flexible with our schedule as we can, but please do not keep constantly bugging us about things; one email is enough. Respect everyone, even people lower than you. Never impersonate anyone who trains or teaches at the Jedi Academy, if we find out, it will be a ban from every server, and ban from the academy. Have lots of fun, we enjoy fun, we love fun. Have fun! We will make everything as fun as possible. Have fun training and teaching! That's our number one priority. Have lots of fun, we enjoy fun, we love fun. Have fun! We will make everything as fun as possible. Have fun training and teaching! That's our number one priority. (maybe I should list the last one 3 times...) Have lots of fun, we enjoy fun, we love fun. Have fun! We will make everything as fun as possible. Have fun training and teaching! That's our number one priority. SO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WILL EVERYONE JUST PLEASE HAVE FUN AND CHALLENGE YOURSELF AND ENJOY THE ACADEMY AND WHAT IT IS MEANT FOR? -Santa is sad children... Santa is sad. -Huxley This comment was edited by Huxley on Dec 17 2002 02:28pm. |
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Ulic Belouve - Student
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I knew Hector could back me up.
I was intending to write things in a different manner, but I will start with a different approach. Since it seems people are getting confused about my examples about the military, I am using them as illustrations. The military is a fine institution in many countries, and has some things one can learn. That said, the WAH thing is just an example of how really, you shouldn't whine about things that you consciously signed on to do. You can complain, yes, but if you complain about how stupid students are, or about having so much to do, well, then, go back to being a Learner, like I said. One would think that you were able to handle what is given to you. Second, another nice example that most militaries use, whine up, not down. Or whine accross levels. I really should not have ppl above me complain to me about some things they hate about their job. That's why I don't want to be a JAT, I don't want to evolve into a complainer. New points, though: I can see and sense in just about all news details that the students feel that there are students one one side, and the Trainers and Council on the other. They just seem to be so separate. And really, if you look to see if such separation is felt by the students, you can see that it is there. So the Knights are supposed to be the liason for this, right? Surprisingly, no one let me know. I feel that the students and JAT/JAC are separated too much. I know in a convo with Hux last night, he asked: "Why didn't you tell me this stuff? I thought we were bros?" I replied: "You became a JAT, Hux" So I don't want to be a JAT, or a JAC. And I don't want to bring down the council, for you cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. But, you can strenghten the weak (students aren't wesk, but bear with me). So, I've had some random ideas for this. One, maybe placing each Knight as responsible for being liason to different ranks (more for the initiates, since they seem to have many concerns on the trials). Or, have one or two ppl from each rank, gather WITH the council on some things (SOME, not all). Just pick a couple people sometimes, have them into some processes. It would make sense to have their input on issues that might directly affect them. And yes, most of the people here are young. So some issues are beyond them. But I was young too, and I was obsessed with what games meant for me as a world. So I just see where we need to close a gap between students and the JAT/JAC. If it is a thing where we feel they "represent" us, and not "rule over" us, then it would be a better place. I'd probably talk more to JATs and JACs then I do now. And, to admit a flaw of my own, I actually have a deep grudge against Silent. If you are smart at all, you can figure out what makes her (mostly) unique to the Academy. There is a long, long story to that, but that's just how I feel, and will feel. So probably I am after only her, and to settle a score some years back with someone else, and I'm also aiming to fix the council and JATs while I'm at it. So, I still feel that despite my grudges, that I still make some valid points. And I'm not fixing my grudges. They run far too deep. _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. |
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Hector Thrawn - Ex-Student
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although ulic made some good points i do have a couple of arguments. ulic says that because he is a knight it is not his job to figure out how things should be run, i agree, but if he knows how they should not be run, and the JAC/JATs do not, then technicaly shouldnt it be his responsibility to accept a promotion so that he can use his awsome political skills to their fullest? to just sit back and say your wrong everytime someone makes a mistake is a bit pointless when you can prevent the mistake by say "waait this wont work" in the planning phases (if there is one).
the other thing i would like to say is not actually about ulic but rather about what some people may respond with. when he gives the example of: if people dont like america they should leave, it may seem a bit extreme. however i believe that it was becuase it was not the best analogy, not because it was wrong. America is a country with a huge governing body (both legislative houses, the ecutive and judical branch and countless other such things). because of this it is easier for one person to abuse their power without long-term effects. the JA however, is small so if one person abuses their power it is hard to hide, and has a much greater effecto on the "residents". As for huxley's atgument about not being an army, yup. your right, i think ulic might be taking it a bit to seriously. however, he seems to want to make up for those that dont take it seriouly enough, so where he might want to mellow out a bit and save himself some stress, i can think of a few others who could help them selves by filling up the space he vacates in doing so. |
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Lord Exar Kun - Student 
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I felt this disturbance in the force also. A dark force seeking power has fallen upon us...I can feel it. well, enough with the weird talking, I think silent is right. People should NEVER ask for higher positions(exept of course trials for J-man and learner). It is quit the opposit of what the JA should be like. Promotions are earned, not asked for... _______________ -Retired april the 19th 2004 |
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Bubu - Hubbub 
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wow ulic... you scared me with that post
there's not much i can add here. i do agree that people should look more at the big picture. as hux said, instead of learning 3 combos for your next trial, learn as much as you can and work hard. what you are tested for is mainly attitude. skill is only a by-product of a good attitude. and yes, some JATs and/or JACs should complain less because really nobody is forcing them to be anything more than initiates. with this in mind, i do want to thank the JACs, JATs, and members of the staff who do work hard to keep this community on its feet. i have been part of clans and game communities before and the JA is by far the best i've seen so far. so, good job guys, and keep it up! and i'll do my best to help out as well... _______________ make install -not war |
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Huxley - Retired
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This is not an Army though Ulic This is a fun place with guns, yes, but not an army |
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Ulic Belouve - Student
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Well, I wish to elaborate on Hector's thought that never made it to fruition. He did say something about how we either need to trust the JACs or leave willingly.
Sounds pretty crappy, huh? What if your leaders were like that. Here, in America, if you don't like the President, then you can get the hell out. Really, no one is FORCING you to be a U.S. citizen. So, you need to either trust the government or leave. That's that. I know I wouldn't like that in the U.S., and I'm sure other ppl don't like that (my apologies if someone lives under that sort of thing somewhere). But here, well, we should do that. Maybe I'm just a politician (I am a Political Science major), but I think that the students should have some say in some operations, probably through JACs and such. And I also want to call the JACs on stuff, too, without running the risk of being demoted or being the subject of some State of the Academy address (which I still think was a poor way to handle the situation). Plus, the fact that some of the situation was revolved around Silent, having her make the address was a larger flaw. If I get into some conflict with a initiate, I'm not going to lay down some resolution (even if the Council backs it) from my own mouth, because it seems to say "I'm the superior one here, I say this, I win." If it is looked at by a 3rd party, resolved by a 3rd party, and posted by a 3rd party, then things are better. It is a conflict-of-interest item. Do I think those making violations are in the right? No. But I think it should have been handled with more tact. And yes, I will be bold and say I am attacking the decision and wisdom of the council. I have invested enough time and dedication here that I should have such rights. If I am mistaken, and I have no rights here, then I'll just leave, because I was under the impression that we followed a respect theory. And if anyone wants to fire back and say "If you're so great, how would you handle it?" But it's not my job to say how to handle it. One, it's past. Two, I'm not a JAT or JAC. So you could make me one, but I would smile and turn it down. Yes the council is the authority. Yes they run this place well. But we should not sit in fear of questioning them and their decisions. If there is any annoying thing, it is having a ruling council that has no accountability to the people they rule over. I am simply pointing out that they should have some accountability somewhere, so that IF they make a bad call, they can be discouraged from making future ones. Frankly, I feel JACs might be too powerful. They really can't move down the ladder, can they? And there's the "World Smallest Violin" thing, and I hear it so much: "The JACs do a lot of stuff, they stay busy." Or similar retorts. I learned in the military one simple, valuable word in response to such things: WAH So that's what I say to those retorts. From now on, when I see that, I will post WAH. We don't care if you're busy, we know that. If you are so compelled to complain about it, then quit. Either that or do your damn job. So, yeah, there are issues with trials and such, but if you don't want to deal with them, but whine about them, then go back to being a Learner. You can whine, or grow up and be the leader that we think you are. So I'll take flak for all this. But at least I stand up and have guts. I think it was amusing before when DJ Sith said something in jest about my being a Knight of the working class, rising up to overthrow a corrupt council. It takes on a different humor now. _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. |
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Kalheka - Student 
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Just thought I'd chime in here for a minute or two.
I'm probably one of the oldest people here, at nearly the age of 30. The last game I got this much enjoyment out of an online game was Team Fortress Classic. I was part of a clan in that game. I felt that I was part of something special in a see of sites and communities full of selfish, cheating, Llamas who only had fun when they were making somebody else miserable. I must say that I think the Academy is one of the most special communities that I have found. I'll take this opportunity to thank all the JAC's, JAT's, and JAS's that have put forth the effort to build this place, and make it into something worth participating in. You've made this a place that I'm proud to be a small part of. _______________ Death is only the beginning. This comment was edited by Kalheka on Dec 17 2002 12:34am. |
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Vaughn - Student
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DJ, who officially are the janitorial staff? I guess i have a.... problem. Whenever someone dies, i always feel like their body should be cleaned up. Would that (body disposal) count as janitorial staff? _______________ When you become an actor, you become the person, and you dont act anymore. You just are. - Tyler HP, Taught by Mr G Simpson |
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Arcuss - Student 
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I've said this before, but in case you missed it here it is again.
Howdy kids, it's your friendly neighborhood Arcuss again. I just wanted to share some pearls of wisdom with you all. In your journeys to becoming JATs,JAKs,and even JACs, always keep in mind that each of these ranks come with a certain amount of responsibilities. Make sure that you are prepared to assume theses responsibilities before you apply for a higher rank. The ranks are more than just tittles of prestige, higher rank=more work. Always keep the Academy's purpose and needs in mind while you're thinking about how COOL it would to be a Knight,Trainer or Councilmen. Likewise, keep in mind that when you sign on to a server with one of these tags, you will have about 2 seconds before everyone there is on you with some sort of request or question. In addition, I'd just like to say that these higher ranks are privileges not rights. In order to gain a privilege you must prove yourself a worthy recipient. This is nothing new kids,all societies throughout human history have had rites of passage. Here at the Academy it's no different we have a ranking system as our rites of passage. As we progress through these ranks we come to a point were progression is only possible when those who came before us can recognize, in us, the embodiment of the values and ideas of the Academy. It's only then that we can expect to advance to higher levels. How do I prove I'm worthy? I'm glad you asked. Get on the servers, keep learning, teaching/helping others, be kind, follow the rules, and above all else just treat each and every player(no matter what their rank is) with the utmost RESPECT. These are pretty simple guidelines, don't you agree? With these guidelines, a little patients,and some maturity you're sure to progress beyond the lower ranks. Ok, in case I'm totally off base here, I give the Council permission to poke me in the eye when next they see me. -Arcuss the Janitor =oP *Whutch you want, you know I got it... Whutch you need, you know I got it...* This comment was edited by Arcuss on Dec 16 2002 06:58pm. |
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Darth Revan - Ex-Student 
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I am a very fast typer. Some times faster than I write.
PS: I totally agree with you, the academy would have fallen apart if the JATs and JACs didn't know what they were doing. _______________ formally known as jedi master, vanished and returned as the new sith lord This comment was edited by Darth Revan on Dec 16 2002 06:40pm. |
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