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Rules updated! -DJ Sith - Jan 05 07:17am |
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We've updated the Rules page a bit. Give em a gander please. Thanks, and thanks to HardWired and the JAKs for all the suggestions! |
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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i would just like to point out that the no swearing rule is going to be pretty hard to enforce. As ive seen swearing when HK-47 doesnt pick up on it, and if certain admins arnt around, nobody says anything about it. _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge  Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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thank you Virtue  My god, you have been busy. I never knew you did all that in the last day. Good work _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Virtue - Jedi Council 
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During the map Beta testing, I built a script that had the NPCs walk out of their respective doors once the buttons were pressed. It really worked quite well and out of all the JAK+ testing of that room, I don't think I ever saw an NPC get trapped in there. The day before v2 was set to release, we came accross a huge problem with the NPC Complex, in that it seemed to be randomly crashing the Servers and we didn't know why. After extensive testing and a real in-depth process of elimination, we found it to be the Models that Sared used to skin them. I tried pretty much everything before that, including removing the NPC "Walk out of Door" script to see if that was causing the crashes. Anyways, the day of release, I woke up early and had to skin two models from scratch myself in under 8 hours, I managed to do it (the Dual Saber and Staffer NPCs) and get a test version of the Map up on projects about half an hour before the Map was due to release - It worked (HOORAH!!), so we proceeded to upload it to the rest of the JA Servers and released it about 15 minutes late. But on that very tight time scedule and the madness that was happening that day, I didn't have the time to put the NPC Walking scripts back in and recompile the Map. So, does this long story have a point? Sure... You can blame Sared for the fact that the NPCs get stuck in their doors sometimes!  Haha, jk. But at least you know why now. - Virtue.  _______________ Academy Architect |
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Hardwired - Retired 
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Quote: When using the NPC room (Ask a staff member if you are unsure of what the NPC room is.) only spawn as many NPC's as you can handle and no more that 5 at a time. It is sorta assumed in that rule. By handeling we do mean killing them. - HW _______________ ::Nothing wrong with a little shooting.....as long as the right people get shot:: |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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I've taken a look at those rules, and I like them, but I just ask if one small thing could be added to the NPC rule It's twice now when I walk into a server, spawn something, and two NPC's walk out that door. One evidently being trapped in there last time something was spawned. "If you spawn it, you kill it" or something along those lines Anyway, I'll leave you be ... - Bail - _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Rinzler - Student 
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and i support the actions taken _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 |
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Hardwired - Retired 
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It was deemed as needed. Plain and simple. And yes..It's permanent. - HW _______________ ::Nothing wrong with a little shooting.....as long as the right people get shot:: |
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Rinzler - Student
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well javaguy, whilst what your saying is good. I, respectful to you and others who share the point of view, disagree. i've seen at least 2 examples in a few days of why the rule update there was necessary. I wont go into the situations because i dont want the students involved to feel put down or anything by what happened. but in them a jak+ was really needed to keep people from acting up. _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 |
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Squibit - Student 
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Still Javaguy does have a good point, any reasons why this has been changed is it because too many people were messing about (like when the whole place got locked down some time ago) and will be removed soon, or is it a perminant rule change? If constant its very disapointing. Surely if the FFA in a dfferent area is not handled in the proper way its the responsibility of the unfortunat victim to gather evidence (condump, demo screenie) and report it , no different from any other style of laming. _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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Khâ D'Kana - Student 
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Eheh I think you missunderstood me there JavaGuy. Sorry for my bad english It's not my proposal, it's something that has been added to the rules with this update. As I was sometimes training with trip mines in matrixes and in the pit, I just asked if it will be possible to make bold the changes that have be done. Because if I haven't read so diligently this version of rules I will have continue my trip mines training without to wait a JAK to be on. So someday I will maybe have been exposed to bans problem  And btw I'm sharing your point of view (JavaGuy's view) about trusting students. Because when some untrustfull people make something bad other students are still able to take screenshots. I hope my words looks a little bit clearer this time. Anyway I will soon take some english classes -Khâ D'Kana _______________ In light of day, nor dark of night, no evil shall escape our sight. Proud member of the D'Kana family |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Could we have a summary of what has changed about the rules page? Quote: You may use a nickname other than your Academy name when on our servers, you may NOT, however impersonate the name of another JA member. If a staff member asks what your Academy name is you will have to tell them. I hope everyone reads this carefully. It's not a new rule and has always seemed crystal clear to me, but it is a longtime source of confusion. You do not have to use your site name on the server. If a JAK+ asks you your site name, you do not have to change your nick; just tell him using amsay. I personally will never ask unless I am suspicious about someone. On Kha's proposed rule change: Quote: The only exceptions to this rule is if the presence of guns or traps outside of the gun area is OK with everyone on the server and a staff member is present (to keep things from getting out of hand). I respectfully disagree for two reasons. Firstly, there are some times of day when it is very hard to find a ranked member on the servers, and that puts a burden on someone whose schedule/time zone limits his server activity to those times. (I know, life is unfair and we should consider the majority first, but we should accomodate the minority when we can.) More importantly, though, something I've always wanted to see the JA aim for is a the general idea of "raising the bar," setting better standards and more ambitious goals for ourselves. Most of the JA community respects the rules, and even when we disagree--as we often do!--we do so respectfully. I don't like the idea that the students need an authority figure to play nanny for gun FFAs. It lowers our expectations of students and lowers students' expectations of themselves by suggesting that they can't take responsibility to set a great standard of behavior for themselves. Something I learned as a math tutor (and later math teacher in the Peace Corps) is that when you raise your expectations of people, they rise to the occasion, and when you lower your expectations they tend to live down to your expectations. The assumption that a JAK+ needs to be around for a gun FFA to prevent it from getting out of hand lowers the bar in precisely the kind of situation where it should be raised: Most students here set a great standard of behavior and should be trusted to continue to do so. Yes, there will always be rulebreakers, but they are dealt with, and they are the minority. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Squibit - Student 
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Also the whole "I have vanquished you 78 times Squibit of Belouve" comments really start to get on your nerves right about the hundred mark Ok thats cleared things up perfectly for me hardwired, still think the wording on that is a little (oh gawd spelling this is gunna kill me, spell checker no way!) ambiguous (???) [read: not clear] _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
This comment was edited by Squibit on Jan 06 2005 12:52am. |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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A killtracker is an annoying little program that you run with jk3. It keeps track of how many kills you've had, along with deaths. It is also capable of playing mp3s ingame, and showing automated "good fight" messages among others. But since it spams the screen quite often, and is rather tasteless imo, we don't allow them on our servers. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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what is a killtracker? _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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Janiriki - Student 
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Read & agreed to (not that there's any coice apart from leaving & whp'd wanna do that!!! ) _______________ Proud to be Padawan to Sared "It's not over 'till I WIN!!!" Les Brown |If at first you don't succeed...you're doing about average! «§pecial ©haracters guide» | Winners never quit & quitters never win! This comment was edited by Janiriki on Jan 05 2005 09:49pm. |
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Hardwired - Retired
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The grey that cuts into the rules is something you will have to take up with DJ. Thats an issue due to the site and not the lenth of the text. Killtracker has nothing to do with the binding of special moves as such. But it seemed very extreme to have it as a seperate rule. I decided to put it into a rule that was slightly similar. As for the FFA rule. Quote: Any extraordinary activity (such as FFA, roleplaying, king of the hill, etc.) involving guns or other agressive actions outside the gun area or any other rule violation must be ok with everyone on the server and a staff member must present (to keep things from getting out of hand). To avoid confusion to people joining the server during such a session please stay clear of the spawnpoint or tell them directly when they connect. This rule meerly controls any extraordinary activity that takes place outside the battlegrounds. Things that wouldn't normaly transpire. Like a mapwide FFA. In the battleground rules don't stop applying. You still cant attack anyone just because they step into there. Everyone in that area must be in agreement that they in part of whats happening there. Keep in mind that a few rules up from that one it is stated: Quote: There is absolutely NO fighting or agressive action unless agreed upon. I hope that cleared some of it up.. - HW _______________ ::Nothing wrong with a little shooting.....as long as the right people get shot:: This comment was edited by Hardwired on Jan 05 2005 07:40pm. |
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Squibit - Student
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Alot better now, good job, a few things to point out though... Quote: Along the same lines, it is not allowed to attack someone while they are typing (unless the typing icon appears while you are in the middle of an attack). This is one long line for me and goes off the grey box slighty, just a minor thing really but looks a little unprofessional (eek spelling!). Might just be my set up (1024 * 768, Mozilla firefox) Quote: If it's not naturally bound to a key in the game, don't do it. A custom keyboard config is fine if it makes you comfortable, but no binding combo moves (DFA, lunge, etc). This gives an unfair advantage and is considered cheating. ///// In addition the use of a killtracker is not allowed on the servers. Shouldn't this be two points, where the //// is I never used a kill tracker so there may be some link that i dont see Quote: (such as FFA, roleplaying, king of the hill, etc.) involving guns or other agressive actions outside the gun area This always was confusing to me. Is it listing guns outside the fort... or other aggressive action as two seperate situation in which you need to get permission? or does it mean that you do not need permission to take take part in unusual activity in the fort. Eek, hard to explain. Basicly, does this mean that as long as you are in the fort you can shoot anyone, its basicly a constant FFA area ? Cause if it does i strongly disagree with this rule, If it doesn't could you reword it somehow cause thats how it could be interperated... meh maybe im just wierd. Again, great job guys, if this is the worst i can come up with your doing well --Squibit of Belouve _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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OcarinaLink - Student 
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cool update, but what's a gander?! _______________ memento mori |
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Henkes - Student 
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Good Work guys!! _______________ Get on your feet and do the Funky Alfonzo! |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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Ph34r the new rules!!! _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Thank you for clearing some minor stuff up =) _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Thomasooo - Student 
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Nice update. Good job! _______________ In the navy and LOVING it!
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Khâ D'Kana - Student 
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About using guns and explosives (even in special activities) outside of the battleground, it will maybe be a good idea to make bold the following change... Quote: The only exceptions to this rule is if the presence of guns or traps outside of the gun area is OK with everyone on the server and a staff member is present (to keep things from getting out of hand). Thanks for the updates you made guys -Khâ D'Kana _______________ In light of day, nor dark of night, no evil shall escape our sight. Proud member of the D'Kana family This comment was edited by Khâ D'Kana on Jan 05 2005 12:28pm. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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W00t! *Reads* |
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