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First Commercial Space Flight! -Sared - Jun 22 05:48am |
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If you are viewing this site, you like Star Wars. Meaning that to some degree or another, you are a geek. You might range from uber-geek, to has-social-skills geek, but you are still a geek. Therefore, news like this interests you.  This HOT off the press! SpaceShipOne, the first commercial space flight. Officials are still checking radar data to confirm the final altitude -- but unofficially, SpaceShipOne became the first privately funded rocket ship to carry a human into space Monday morning. The final stage of the flight soared approximately 62 miles high, past the "official" mile marker for the edge of space. -NPR news Original Story SpaceShipOne was piloted by Mike Melvill, and the entire project was funded and completed for a little under $100,000,000 United States Dollars/$50,000,000 United Kingdom Pounds. Which is relatively cheap when put into the scope of the global economy. Thats it. The first commercial entrance into space. Give us another thirty years until we get the final vacation plans to the moon ironed out for good. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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Awesome.  |
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Angelos - Student 
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man if i had the money i would build a deathstar and then i would take over all planets there are (even earth) and if you pissed me off i would destroy some like the moon or even the earth _______________ Learn To Forgive, Not Forget |
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KkF FREAKFISH - Ex-Student 
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rofl i dont like starwars i just play n pretend its swords or summin |
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InuYasha - Student 
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w00t... space travel... I WANNA BE AN ASTRO NOT WHEN I GROW UP... no, not really.. but it would be interesting _______________ Quote: Ahh, yeah that InuYasha dude r0x like hell ! "When You Earnestly Believe You Can Compensate For A Lack Of Skill By Doubling Your Efforts, There's No End To What You Can't Do." |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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Yeah I noticed, however it was merely something stating that space law. Yeah, sorry about repeating that. The link I posted however is the homepage for the dude that is doing this. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Ulic Belouve - Student 
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Erm...hey gradius... I found it and posted it first. So yeah, it was already listed here. But, whatever. _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. |
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Angelos - Student 
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oh well then i would buy ummm all planets!!! yeah just even looking at them would cost like 5$ and ummm damn the sun shouldnt be a star _______________ Learn To Forgive, Not Forget |
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Lancer007 - Student 
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cool. |
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Gradius - Ex-Student
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This guy was on a talk show, that's where I saw him. There is an international law forbidding any government from claiming the planets. I'll search around a bit and see what I can find on it, then edit this post with the link. I'm telling you this is true. EDIT : Found it! So haha! http://www.lunarembassy.com/lunar/index2.lasso . BTW, I was COMPLETELY wrong about the prices. Oh, and here's some FAQ on the law copied directly from the site: The Outer Space Treaty of 1967 explicitly forbids any government from claiming a celestial resource such as the Moon or a planet. What does this mean? Well it means that governments can not appropriate the Moon or other celestial bodies. Effectively, governments have signed to the fact that they have no rights to these bodies at all. As a law expert will tell you, what is actually important here is what the Outer Space Treaty does not say. It explicitly does not say whether commercial enterprises or private individuals can claim, exploit or appropriate the celestial bodies for profit. (Note that the Lunar Embassy are not a government.) Go to News and Faq link at the top of the site, then over to Current Space Law to see the rest _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider This comment was edited by Gradius on Jun 22 2004 05:45pm. |
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SedNox - Student 
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Groooovy _______________ -Evil Clown- "We interrupt this program to increase dramatic tension." Echuu's 1200th comment, D@RtH N00B's 10850th comment, Redeye's 100th and 150th comment. |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student 
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Yeah, Thats pretty awesome. -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
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Angelos - Student
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heeeY i want to meet that guy that says that he owns the planets!! i would like to buy the sun and then i could make money out of it, because your using my sun and its not free _______________ Learn To Forgive, Not Forget |
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Thomasooo - Student 
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Cool! /me buys a ticket to the sun /me dies  Thank gawd for insurance!  _______________ In the navy and LOVING it!
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Lego[DEAD] - Ex-Student ![Lego[DEAD]](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=70&f_height=48&f_image=../banned.png&f_odd=1){kind=small}
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IM NOT A GEEK..EHHE GG _______________ AHH YOU ARE ALL NICE LADS |
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Ulic Belouve - Student 
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I remember gathering this in my Nuclear Polics course, but there is some international agreement that states that Space and its celestial bodies are not subject to ownership. And I seriously doubt these countries are going to let someone tiptoe around them because they are a private entity, and not a governmental force. Any sort of contract that a private person has would be nullified if the property is being restricted by said person. Not to mention that no single private entity could stand up to a government. The previous comment was on the right track. The international community would either find you in breach of some higher law, buy you out, or simply take you over. But then again, I'm arguing against some "private person owns space" theory that hasn't been backed up yet. If I get a chance to....ah....here it is: 1967 Outer Space Treaty The treaty's key arms control provisions are in Article IV. States-parties commit not to: * Place in orbit around the Earth or other celestial bodies any nuclear weapons or objects carrying WMD. * Install WMD on celestial bodies or station WMD in outer space in any other manner. * Establish military bases or installations, test "any type of weapons," or conduct military exercises on the moon and other celestial bodies. Other treaty provisions underscore that space is no single country's domain and that all countries have a right to explore it. These provisions state that: * Space should be accessible to all countries and can be freely and scientifically investigated. * Space and celestial bodies are exempt from national claims of ownership. * Countries are to avoid contaminating and harming space or celestial bodies. * Countries exploring space are responsible and liable for any damage their activities may cause. * Space exploration is to be guided by "principles of cooperation and mutual assistance," such as obliging astronauts to provide aid to one another if needed. EDIT: Yeah, you might want a link to that, huh? http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/outerspace.asp Yeah, one could try to tiptoe around that, but the private guy will always lose to these treaties. But I see this treaty being modified in time, but then again, all agreements are modified in time. It's politics. _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. This comment was edited by Ulic Belouve on Jun 22 2004 03:15pm. |
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Fate - Student 
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Quote: Yeah no worries about the guy who 'owns' the planets. Two words: eminent domain. Very good Tito. Besides, if I go up there with an army of 100,000 soldiersm set up my moon base, do you think the US will come in and be like "I'm sorry, you're building on the land of Tim Smith. You're going to have to give it back." Heck no! They'd be more like "h3y j00, w3 l1k3 wh47 j00 g075, g1v3 17 70 u5 0r w3 bl0w j00 up!!!" and then neither Mr. Smith nor I get it _______________ I must not fear . Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear . I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. Gom gom gom gom gom! |
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Rand - Student |
Quote: well i think technically we are all geeks, concidering this is a website about Jedi realated things and such well im only here to kill things |
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DJK - Student 
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hmmm, must be cool owning the universe |
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Tido - Student 
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Yeah no worries about the guy who 'owns' the planets. Two words: eminent domain. |
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Odan-Wei Belouve - Student 
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Quote: Actually, there is this guy (forget name) who LITERALLY owns all the planets. Now I know this sounds stupid, but it's the truth. There's this law stating that no GOVERNMENT can clame ownage over the stars or planets. But it never said anything about one PERSON not being able to claim them. So he basically called around to ambassadors and such of just about every country, and said that he claims them, and they all said OK. So this guys spends his time selling property on these planets. Something like $1 million per 5 acres. Anyways, the point is, if we do indeed start taking commercail flights to the moon, it will cause a lot of problems because people actually own property on the moon. Like I said, I know this sounds rediculous, but it's the truth. This guy is legally selling property in space. Uhhhhhhhh yeah....sure. Got any proof to back this up? I mean I know that there are people selling plots of moon land to unsepecting customers but most goverments do not acknowledge these as real contractal agreements. I have to agree with Ash on this... It sounds weird and unlikely that anyone could own any property on another planet than Earth today, especially because there is no international law or agreement about that. And I even doubt anyone could meet up with diplomats and governments of all the countries to get their agreement on planet property. No one would ever consider giving an entire planet to a single person for free!!! No one has the right to even consider it. My $0.02 And back to the subject, how much is the fare ?  Odan-Wei _______________ Padawan and brother to SmilyKrazy - Adopted in the Belouve Family by Fizz and Bubu, BELOUVE ON! - Vladarion, you'll always be in my heart and memories - Spam-Padawan of Jacen Aratan  - [DJ is my beloved wife! - JA Family: Brothers:
Virtue, Furi0us, Vladarion, Hardwired, Janus, Axion, D@RtHM@UL, Motrec, Mike , xAnAtOs , Luke Skywalker; Little bro to SilkMonkey ; Special kind of brother to Kenyon ; Sisters in-law: Rosered, Ain-Soph Aur] Photoshop works: click here This comment was edited by Odan-Wei Belouve on Jun 22 2004 11:36am. |
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Raider - Student 
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Quote: Seriously, are we considering the risks of space travel? The risks of setting up outposts on planets? HAHA ! HAVE ROCKET SCIENTISTS NEVER PLAYED DOOM?!  The first part is true, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut..... _______________ Artificial intelligence beats natural stupidity. |
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Senor Hat - Student 
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well i think technically we are all geeks, concidering this is a website about Jedi realated things and such _______________ I have beaten The Internet. The end guy was hard. This comment was edited by Senor Hat on Jun 22 2004 09:52am. |
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Mookie - Ex-Student 
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D'Loko - Ex-Student 
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Seriously, are we considering the risks of space travel? The risks of setting up outposts on planets? HAVE ROCKET SCIENTISTS NEVER PLAYED DOOM?! _______________ Owner of the Gradius Telegraphman Award |
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Ash - Eats Babies 
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Quote: Actually, there is this guy (forget name) who LITERALLY owns all the planets. Now I know this sounds stupid, but it's the truth. There's this law stating that no GOVERNMENT can clame ownage over the stars or planets. But it never said anything about one PERSON not being able to claim them. So he basically called around to ambassadors and such of just about every country, and said that he claims them, and they all said OK. So this guys spends his time selling property on these planets. Something like $1 million per 5 acres. Anyways, the point is, if we do indeed start taking commercail flights to the moon, it will cause a lot of problems because people actually own property on the moon. Like I said, I know this sounds rediculous, but it's the truth. This guy is legally selling property in space. Uhhhhhhhh yeah....sure. Got any proof to back this up? I mean I know that there are people selling plots of moon land to unsepecting customers but most goverments do not acknowledge these as real contractal agreements. _______________ "We keep odd hours...." ----------------------- They Live, We Sleep This comment was edited by Ash on Jun 22 2004 06:53am. |
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