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Aug 13 2007 10:28pm

Martian Marine
 - ex-Student
Martian Marine
Ever feel like your parents are ignorant when it comes to understanding why you play video games? I feel that way daily. My parents see only a nuisance comprised of my Xbox and Xbox 360. My parents, like other people of their generation do not know how video games could teach teamwork, problem solving/critical thinking, and how the creation or modding (gamer slang for modifying) of existing video games to include academic orientated gameplay would help students, by helping them remember important concepts. This is why the creation of a class at Butler Community College devoted strictly to video game playing would be beneficial to the college as a whole.
Teamwork is very important in a video game because playing co-op makes players rely on each other. For example, my friend Nate Haney and I (Lucas Ammons) were playing Assault On The Control Room, level five of the science fiction FPS (First Person Shooter) Halo: Combat Evolved. The difficulty level we were playing on this acclaimed Xbox launch title was heroic, the second hardest of the four difficulty settings; Easy, Normal, Heroic, and Legendary. We had come to the first of three bridges which was infested with enemies. On either of the two lower difficulty settings, Nate and I could’ve just blasted our way across the bridge laying waste to all adversaries in our path; however, on the heroic setting teamwork was required. Athletics and academics are important I agree, but what about the students that are neither Athletes or are academically struggling? These students could feel that they are not important or they just don’t care about their academics. These students are more than likely to drop out of college and go work at Mc Donald’s for low pay and long hours. They may end up on the street begging or stealing to survive, either way there is a past time millions of people enjoy worldwide, and that past time is video games.
This may be surprising, and confound adults but research has shown that doctors that have to operate using a robotic arm to perform surgery actually have greater ease in performing the operation if they play video games. The reason for this is while playing a video game, a player can not look down at his hands while he is in the middle of a race. The player must commit to memory sixteen different buttons to push on a console controller, being also able to remember important combos; that for a console; think about how many buttons are on a keyboard. Modern video games now are not only fun and a challenge to play they are also take full advantage of the internet to enable people on opposite ends of the globe to compete or team up with each other and play a single game via Xbox Live or some other broadband internet service provided by console makers.
The Dorms here at Butler already have high speed internet, for school related use, but some people that live in the dorms have consoles that they’ve brought from home in the dorms and they take advantage of the internet connection to play online. If I have learned anything from my time at Butler it is that all the students have a boat load of homework during any given week. This may lead to lack of sleep and irritability the next morning due to flipping through a two-hundred page book looking for an answer that is spread over three separate chapters. A video game by contrast has the objectives placed on the screen when ever the pause menu is selected.
How would campus-wide video game events or just playing of video games help improve students attitude?
Simple, by making students do something they love and enjoy and by making it homework, the students will willingly stay up for hours on end completing their assignments. If more classes had say a history orientated video game or math orientated game, homework grades could go up.
For example, in the Xbox game Halo, instead of just hitting a switch to open a door an age appropriate Math, Science or English could be posed to the student and only the correct answer will open the door.

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Nov 04 2007 04:35pm

Carbonel
 - Student

I know but if he does do something like this anywhere and he looks at this just a pointer

This comment was edited by Carbonel on Nov 04 2007 04:36pm.

Nov 04 2007 10:31am

Jade Jedi
 - Retired
 Jade Jedi

The ex-Student under his name means he's baned so he wont be summarising any time soon.:D;)
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Nov 04 2007 04:21am

Carbonel
 - Student

Next time summarize because I have a short attention span and usually skim what people write if its longer than half a page. For the record halo on heroic isnt hard I beat it on heroic in an hour dieing many times but not much teamwork .

This comment was edited by Carbonel on Nov 04 2007 04:22am.

Aug 15 2007 05:31am

Everon
 - Student
 - The winner!!!
 Everon

For some one who enjoys writing you really need to paragraph your sentences better :).

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Aug 14 2007 12:11pm

Laziana
 - Jedi Instructor
 Laziana

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Ever feel like your parents are ignorant when it comes to understanding why you play video games? I
Most of the time, it is not the parent, but the child who is ignorant of why his parents do not let him excessively play video games whilst leaving important work undone.


Agreed.

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Teamwork is very important in a video game because playing co-op makes players rely on each other.
Yes, just like in any team-related sport (i.e. football) - with the exception that sports require you to move around as well, which most people nowadays seem to be rather uncomfortable with.


Exactly. Honestly, I am far from being a sportive person and I spend surely more time in gaming then on moving my lazy body... BUT: If I get the chance - which happens once in a while - I really love to hook up with my friends for a nice and friendly session of basketball and prior this to any video game. And really: It feels good :)

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Athletics and academics are important I agree, but what about the students that are neither Athletes or are academically struggling?

They continue to work on themselves, for the only way to get better is through continuous work and practice - the only mistake you can make, is to stop trying.


Yus. You gotta be persistent and most of all: You got to have the will to do so, even if some subjects might seem boring or unimportant to you. Most of the struggling parts have their source in pure desinterest and thus the unwillingness to get into detail. Additionally, people tend to give up with they get stuck on the first approach they try. But with the right effort and will ANYONE can make it. You just have to be dedicated to it.

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If I have learned anything from my time at Butler it is that all the students have a boat load of homework during any given week. This may lead to lack of sleep and irritability the next morning due to flipping through a two-hundred page book looking for an answer that is spread over three separate chapters.

Not the quantity of work, but the creation of a proper schedule is where most students fail. From my experience, people tend to postpone work to very late hours, which results in the student having to work at night.


I agree. Proper schedule is generally the main problem. I am not sure how much of the organizing aspect is taught in the classes. Maybe there might be an approach: To learn how to learn... doesn't actually sound as strange as I thought in the first place.

Additionally I have to add that video games shall ALWAYS be viewed as entertainment, as is watching tv, going to the movies, going out for a drink. Do it in your free time to get your mind off and to relax. But then again... if you relax too much and got your mind totally off, you are not in there. Thus resulting into problems, that's for sure. But playing even more (and even wanting to have classes related to video gaming) is definately NOT the answer.


Just my 2 cents here.

Greez,
-Laz
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This comment was edited by Laziana on Aug 14 2007 12:14pm.

Aug 14 2007 09:38am

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

Welcome back :p

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Ever feel like your parents are ignorant when it comes to understanding why you play video games? I
Most of the time, it is not the parent, but the child who is ignorant of why his parents do not let him excessively play video games whilst leaving important work undone.

I do not oppose playing video games at all, but what most (especially younger) people tend to overlook is that video games are just a form of entertainment - thus entertainment, just like any other mental vacation, should not only be taken in moderation, but should never exceed such vital things like study/work in importance.

As kant would say (or, as i would loosely translate him from the german text):
"Sloth: the inclination to rest without precedent work."

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Teamwork is very important in a video game because playing co-op makes players rely on each other.
Yes, just like in any team-related sport (i.e. football) - with the exception that sports require you to move around as well, which most people nowadays seem to be rather uncomfortable with.
If you want to argue that one form of entertainment is "better" or more virtuous than the other, then that's fine as long as you do not make said activity transcend its category.

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Athletics and academics are important I agree, but what about the students that are neither Athletes or are academically struggling?

They continue to work on themselves, for the only way to get better is through continuous work and practice - the only mistake you can make, is to stop trying.

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If I have learned anything from my time at Butler it is that all the students have a boat load of homework during any given week. This may lead to lack of sleep and irritability the next morning due to flipping through a two-hundred page book looking for an answer that is spread over three separate chapters.

Not the quantity of work, but the creation of a proper schedule is where most students fail. From my experience, people tend to postpone work to very late hours, which results in the student having to work at night.

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Simple, by making students do something they love and enjoy and by making it homework, the students will willingly stay up for hours on end completing their assignments.

Here you misunderstand the meaning of the term homeWORK - note once more that video games are entertainment, and an assignment to engage in entertainment for the sake of it, as homeWORK is inconsistent (apart from few exceptions). Now, i believe it would be a good idea to incorporate a certain level of fun in the form of games into your everyday study-material - however, the vast majority of games are not designed to teach you anything worthwhile. The ones that do teach you something, are of minimal pedagogical value anyways, and you would do way better picking up a book instead.
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