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Concerning the spring-cleaning of the Hall of Fame
Apr 19 2005 04:43pm

Halendor
 - ex-Student
Halendor
Edited my little rant.

Edit by Virtue: Seriously, don't take every little thing so personally. You asked a question and we gave you answers. And yet you go on and on about how dreadful the world is? Give me a break.

This post was edited by Virtue on Apr 19 2005 04:45pm.

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Apr 18 2005 10:17pm

Aron
 - Retired
 Aron

We have evaluated the Hall of Fame one by one, and have come to the conclusion that some people were there that should simply not have been there in the first place, or some were placed there for the wrong reasons.

Having been a staff member does NOT guarantee a place in the Hall of Fame.

The people who have been removed from the list have not been removed because they're not nice people; they simply have been removed because we want to start the Academy over, with one big aspect being the renewing of the staff, and HIGHLY upping our standards.

This includes the Hall of Fame. The people who have been placed in it, have been re-evaluated to match the new standards, and some simply did not meet them in our viewpoint.

We already expected some of these threads before we made the cleanup, but there there will be no restoration.

This comment was edited by Aron on Apr 18 2005 10:18pm.


Apr 19 2005 08:13am

Halendor
 - Ex-Student
 Halendor

I'm not sarcastic, only bitter and disappointed. It's always been around here that if something happened you didn't like, there was nothing you could do about it. I just forgot about it for a second, but it's all coming back now ;)

Apr 19 2005 08:09am

 
 - Student

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Like you can talk Mr. I've-Retired-Too-Many-Times-To-Count :P


Exactly! I've lived it, so I know it better than y'all! :P

PS. Sarcastic morons and people who retire from video games still suck.

:D

Apr 19 2005 08:06am

xAnAtOs
 - Student

Like you can talk Mr. I've-Retired-Too-Many-Times-To-Count :P
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Apr 19 2005 08:01am

 
 - Student

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To me the Hall of Fame would be the last thing I would change if I were to renovate the Academy. I'm not sure if you remember it, Virtue, but it takes (or took) alot of effort to become a JAK and from there to JAT. That effort always included helping other members, assisting in classes and in general, investing alot of time in the Academy. Too bad you don't care about that anymore now.

I'm also glad to see the Council so open to ideas and suggestions, and always willing to reconsider a decision they've made. Then again, that's just business as usual.

Virtue, Aron, thanks for remembering me why I left. Goodbye!


Sarcastic morons and people who retire from video games suck. :D

Apr 19 2005 07:49am

Halendor
 - Ex-Student
 Halendor

To me the Hall of Fame would be the last thing I would change if I were to renovate the Academy. I'm not sure if you remember it, Virtue, but it takes (or took) alot of effort to become a JAK and from there to JAT. That effort always included helping other members, assisting in classes and in general, investing alot of time in the Academy. Too bad you don't care about that anymore now.

I'm also glad to see the Council so open to ideas and suggestions, and always willing to reconsider a decision they've made. Then again, that's just business as usual.

Virtue, Aron, thanks for remembering me why I left. Goodbye!

This comment was edited by Halendor on Apr 19 2005 07:53am.

Apr 19 2005 07:39am

Furi0us
 - Student
 Furi0us

It's weird seeing stuff like "The Academy isn't like it used to be, it needed a change, blah blah." from people with I.D's in the 7000-9000 range...

EDIT: Anyone who is cool remembers Halendor.
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This comment was edited by Furi0us on Apr 19 2005 07:40am.

Apr 19 2005 06:12am

Lian Del Rey
 - Student
 Lian Del Rey

Hey...
I haven't read the pt. 2 of the Spring Cleaning thing, and I would just like to say:

GAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
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Apr 19 2005 06:02am

SilkMonkey
 - Distributor of Cold Ones
 SilkMonkey

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We have evaluated the Hall of Fame one by one, and have come to the conclusion that some people were there that should simply not have been there in the first place, or some were placed there for the wrong reasons.


The fact that I decided that the JA needed two different proms doesn't make me famous? *SHOCK* :P Seriously, it makes sense to clear out the Hall of Fame. I remember when it once went down like 30 names. Crazyness.
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Apr 19 2005 05:53am

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

But most of you guys won't be Retired, you'll just be demoted to Student, so it probably wouldn't explode too much. :P

Apr 19 2005 05:45am

3th
 - Retired
 3th

i don't think the idea of a retired knight/trainer section is too bad of an idea (of course that list would explode come saturday, lol...hmmm, dunno). keep the HoF to what you guys want--a true honor, examples of great contributions that have been made to the academy.
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Apr 19 2005 05:24am

 
 - Student

To be honest, I think the new list is good. It confuses me that Yun and Merc are still there, though. I mean, Merc was one of the first JAT's, even though he never actually HELD his classes... and Yun hosted roleplaying classes and was a JAC for less than a week! Such long lasting contributions MUST be rewarded! Gimme a break. :P

But yeah, guys like Huxley, Av, Legolas, JS, Vladarion, Apesex, etc... they all deserve to be there. :D

Edit: Yeah, by the way, where the hell is FaDed?

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Apr 19 2005 04:47am

monkai
 - Student

I don't understand what you just said. At first, you were agreeing with sir Aron here. Then the next you're saying we're unruly, we should take time to study here, and listen to our hearts? Yeah, I don't understand sorry. Please explain? :D

-Monkai

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Apr 19 2005 04:44am

Jeramia Adept
 - Student
 Jeramia Adept

Im sorry to disagree, but I think the best thing for the academy is to start over. Besides Master Aron is right, we can just simply put people on the hall of fame for little reason. Those who go up there have to be up there for a major impact they create(not so much an impact just an example). Also i feel that this transition were doing will bring a more firmer understanding of what the academy is about, we are far too reckless and undisciplined. I for one will not succumb to subordinations of unruly fellow students, I urge all of us to follow our great leaders into a future that we may learn prosperity and passion. and so we may learn from each other, we are an academy, we are a school intended for fellow players to learn. So listen to me, listen to everything i tell you, this for your own personal advantage. Take every moment you have here and study it, you will find that even though you have been taught something minor, you have made a bond with someone, a bond that is strong and forever going. The bond that binds all of us, is friendship beyond anything you can conceive. Listen to your hearts hear them speak, they tell you to remember the day we followed The Jedi Academy.
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This comment was edited by Jeramia Adept on Apr 19 2005 04:51am.

Apr 19 2005 04:22am

tarpman
 - The Tarped Avenger
 tarpman

It would be cool if you could add a section on the 'About Us' page that lists all retired ranking members.
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Apr 19 2005 12:52am

xAnAtOs
 - Student

Nope, I agree with Halendor on this (PS i still remember you! :P). Some of the guys on the HoF were truly deserving to be on it. You're setting new criteria because you want to start the ja over? That's fine. But why can that not apply to FUTURE recipients of that honour? You're basically saying,
"Hi, you have done much for the ja. We appreciate your dedication and the hard work that you have put in. However, we feel that under our new standards, you suck. Have a nice day."

I can't remember every single person from the HoF actually :/ but people like FaDed really deserved to be on it. It's a shame when you don't even want to remember the people that brought you to where you are today. I'm not saying build a shrine for them, but putting their name up on the site isn't too much to ask is it?
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Apr 18 2005 11:26pm

LEO2033
 - Student
 LEO2033

Aye looks like it isn't going to be changed. Oh well.
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Apr 18 2005 11:18pm

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
 - Student
 DaRtH-MoBiLiTy

Well i already said my peace about this on the news post, but after talking to Virtue about this, I support the decsion. Not like I have any other choice. :(

-DM-
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Apr 18 2005 11:04pm

Khâ D'Kana
 - Student
 Khâ D'Kana

I'm not wishing to take part in this debate. But I just want to support Menaxia's idea. Putting a permie on people profile when they are added to the HoF will be great :)

Just so we will be able to really know what those people did for the academy ;)

My 2 cents,

-Kha D'Kana
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Apr 18 2005 10:36pm

Virtue
 - Jedi Council
 Virtue

Pretty much what Aron said.
You see, there was a time where anyone who was ranked, just expected to go into the Hall of Fame if/when they Retired. Even I have had people come up to me in the past and say "Dude, I retired, why am I not on the HoF????".
I'm not going to point any fingers here *cough*DJ Sith*cough* but one or two of the JAC are waaaaayyyyyy too nice, some of these fellows damand to be on the HoF, even though they didn't really do anything special, or they'd only been a Knight for 2 weeks.

As Aron said, we simply re-evaluated everyone who was on the HoF and adjusted it to be more suiting.

Repeat: Simply being ranked does not mean you automatically go to the Hall of Fame if/when you retire.

:)

- Virtue. :alliance:
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This comment was edited by Virtue on Apr 18 2005 10:38pm.

Apr 18 2005 10:17pm

Menaxia
 - Student
 Menaxia

In future might it be helpful to put a permie on their profiles to say why they were added to the HoF?
Most of us have not been around since the beginning - and altough the contributions of everyone who has been on that list is well respected, some of them could be seen as obsolete, which is sad...
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Apr 18 2005 10:15pm

Halendor
 - Ex-Student
 Halendor

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I am new to the community, and I am not to sure what is the right choice, [snip].

I'm talking about downsizing the Hall of Fame, not about demoting all members to the rank of Student except the Council.

Apr 18 2005 10:11pm

bono_bob
 - Student

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Thanks for the support. In case anyone was wondering, I wasn't removed from the list; I never was on it. I'm speaking on behalf of the people who's effort and dedication to the Academy has been so blatantly thrown out the window.


I am new to the community, and I am not to sure what is the right choice, but I am aware that considering it to be *thrown away* is a very vague term.. they did mention something about get highe rup peopel ammediately of who they see fit, but if your a knight and become a student, is it really that big of a deal? It is the academy after all. The students are the water. We come here to learn. In fact going back to a student might actaully be a relief since higher ranks should be a responsability not something to necessarily be proud about. The people who should still be higher than a student, will most likey become a JAK or a JAK + again eventaully. I my self use to be a council member of a Xbox clan, and gladly humble my self to be trained to use a single saber.
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Apr 18 2005 10:05pm

Halendor
 - Ex-Student
 Halendor

Thanks for the support. In case anyone was wondering, I wasn't removed from the list; I never was on it. I'm speaking on behalf of the people who's effort and dedication to the Academy has been so blatantly thrown out the window.

Apr 18 2005 10:02pm

Casual
 - Student
 Casual

I totally agree with Halendor. What was the whole point in this renovation? I was happy to see such a large HoF -list in the first place, and even happier when my friends' names appeared there too.

Please restore it.

-Cas
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Apr 18 2005 10:02pm

Jippie Phoenix
 - Student
 Jippie Phoenix

I remember you and lot of other will:)
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