these aren't urban legend emails,its data about our so called leaders.

War makes me sad.

these aren't urban legend emails,its data about our so called leaders.

I'd consider it a huge advance if people would stop basing their arguments on easily refuted "facts" from urban legend e-mails. That alone would raise the level of debate about a dozen notches. But then, I have this crazy fascination with getting the facts right.

War makes me sad.

JavaGuy my father joined the Army National Guard when it wasn't trying to avoid a war,He joined when it didn't matter wether you where in the army or NG,Both went to war.

The heart of this matter is,the Chief people in the White House that are in charge of sending us to war,Avoided serving in a war that they coul'dve served in.

According to the Governer of Texas then,Bush was allowed into the Air National Guard ahead of many more qualified men,simply because his Father asked the Governer for a Favor.The Governer has said this as a matter of public record.

We seem to disagree about how to interpret these Facts, It is not this issue alone but countless other bad decisions that Bush has made that makes me think he cannot be trusted.

Also it is interesting to say, The former Joint Chief's Of Staff,under Reagen's and Bush's Father,All support Kerry.

I know people in the national guard aren't cowards because my Father served in it for Twenty Years.

Let’s see the “Horrible” thiongs John Kerry has done for this country.
1) Volunteered for the Navy, when he could have avoided the military altogether.
2)After serving a tour in the South China Sea, he volunteered for dangerous duty “in country.”
3)He received the Silver Star,Bronze Star, and 3 Purple Hearts for combat action.
4)He came home from that war,and testified before Congress in an attempt to end it.
5)He served as a Prosecutor, putting criminals behind bars.
6)He served as a U.S. Senator for 20 years, fighting for vveterans and leading the ionitiative search for MIAs in Viet Nam.

Lets go one by one

1&2) He only volunteered for service after his college deferral was denied. He only volunteered for the Navy since there was no Vietnamese Navy to fight. his “first tour” was spent way out of the way from combat. He was transferred to the swift boats before they were used to patrol the rivers. When the changfe in mission for the swift boats came through he was vocal in his disliked for the idea. He did what he could to avoid service, while I don’t blame him for that it sickens me that he now tries to paint himsaelf as a war hero.

3) His first purple heart is disputed by his own diary. 9 days after the alleged 1st purple heart incident took place hi wrote in his diary that they had not yet encountered any enemy fire??? Strange to get a wound that wasn’t from you firing a grenade took close when you haven’t seen combat yet.
The heroic rescue of his took place after he took his boat and ran away from what he thought was enemy fire. Only when the coast was clear did his boat return to those he left behind while he ran to safety.
John Kerry is a coward not a war hero.
4) He went to congress and lied about his fellow soldiers for political advantage and to hell with whomever had to pay the price for his gain.
5) His time as a prosecutor is highly exagerated. His main focus and job was poilitcal in nature and not in the court room itself. This goes for his tiime in private practice.
6) If he did so damn much for people during his 20 years in the Senate why the hell does he rely on 3 months in Nam??? The man is a complete joke as a Senator. Here is a little something of John Kerry’s distinguished Senate Career.

• S.Res.123: To change the name of the Committee on Small Business to the “Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship.” (2001)
• S.Res.133: To make May 21, 1991 “National Land Trust Appreciation Day.” (1991)
• S.Res.144: To encourage the European Community to vote to ban driftnets for all European Community fishing fleets. (1991 )
• S.Res.216: Honoring Milton D. Stewart for his leadership and service at the Small Business Administration. (2002)
• S.Con.Res.26: Calling for the United States to support a new agreement providing for a ban on commercial mining of minerals in Antarctica. (1991)

Kerry’s total also includes 10 Senate-passed bills that would have done nothing more than grant waivers to specific foreign-built vessels to transport cargo or people along the US coastline despite a 1920 law requiring that only US-built vessels be allowed to operate between US ports. Because there were 10 different vessels, Kerry introduced 10 separate bills. All died in the House.