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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student  |
There has been a lot of discussion about this on the web and fansites, and stuff, so here: How did you think Anakin brought the Force into balance? Some people say it was because he killed the last two Sith alive. Others say it was because he slaughtered the Jedi. I say it was this: He didn't only kill every Jedi, he also killed every Sith. The universe would have to start all over again. No Jedi... No Sith... This would of course have a tremendous effect on the Jedi after this. In the Old Republic, the Jedi were arrogant, because they thought they thought they were invincible. Now they know they can very easy be destroyed So that's why you have better Jedi, that are sure of themselves, but aren't overconfident. And now an even bigger headbreaker: Was Anakin supposed to go to the Dark Side? Was it meant to happen, or was it one of the possibilities that could happen? I think he was supposed to go to the Dark Side, the Force had that in mind for him. Because, the way I look at it, the Jedi where arrogant and needed to be destroyed. They where to sure of themselves, according to Yoda. And they should be, because for over a thousand years, there were no enemies that could stand against a Jedi, so the Jedi became (in the eyes of the normal man) invincible. That's why when kids are trained to be a Jedi, they expect to be so powerful... Which brings arrogance, right? So the Jedi that weren't arrogant (like Yoda, Echuu-Shen John) escape the slaughter miraculously  . But I'm still guessing why Obi-Wan was allowed to be alive. Was it because he had something to do in his life? Or maybe he had to set right a fault he once made? And if you think he wasn't arrogant, then look at this: in Ep1 he said: "I am ready to face the trials". Arrogant, right? In Ep1 he thought he was ready to take on a Padawan of his own. And he thought he could instruct him just as wel as master Yoda, very arrogant, right? Anyway, post your comments on both these subjects  And feel free to give as lot of critiscism as you want _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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KkF FREAKFISH - Ex-Student 
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thing is he didnt eliminate both sith+jedi because luke lived even if he did C-3P0 would become a jedi muahahaha This comment was edited by KkF FREAKFISH on Jun 06 2004 08:29am. |
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Rogue - Student 
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I would love to bro but I dont remember how i figured it out lol I spent a good hour doing it though lol _______________ I was a child when I joined the JA...scary. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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would you mind elaborating on that Rogue? _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Rogue - Student
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it was Luke _______________ I was a child when I joined the JA...scary. |
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lasarus - Student 
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Of course Anakin was the one to bring balance to the force. If he didn't, why would he be figuring in all six movies? He is the most imprtant peson in the Galaxy during his life. The same kind of reasoning leads to that Anakin turning to the dark side is of utmost imprtance (why else would there be three movies describing how it happened?). But this was just a thought that came to me as I wrote. The reason i really posted was to say that I think that Obi-Wan might have been a bit arrogant, but with his padawan turning to the dark side and all, Old Ben Kenobi has leaned a lesson or two from Humbleton school of un-arrogance... In fact you cant get much more a true jedi than the old Obi-Wan (once he stops hiding that is), except for maybe Qui-Gon Jinn. //L. _______________ The triangular wheel was an improvement over the square one: There was one less bump. |
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Demo Strike - Student 
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He brang balance by having his child Luke. This is what I have always believed. |
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What gets me is that, although in E1 the Jedi weren't aware of a Sith presence, they thought that Anakin woudld bring balance to the force. It sounds stupid, but perhaps they expected him to become a Sith, which would, as they thought then, bring balance. After all, if there can only be 2 Sith at any one time, surely they would be no match for a council and more of Jedi? Meh, just a thought. Anyway, I reckon that Anakin brung balance to the force when he killed Palpatine. When you think about it, if say, you take the 'balance' as equal amounts of Jedi and Sith, all equally powerful, there would be eternal conflict, and, in my opinion, people being killed, manipulated and fighting, isn't a balance. Therefore, by killing Palpatine (after turning back to the Light side) balance was brung in a sense that only Jedi were left. Therefore no more conflict in the Force. However, if the Sith had wiped out the Jedi, there would still be conflict in the Force, as it surrounds us all (only Jedi/Sith are trained to use and feel it). Therefore, if people were still being slaughtered, etc, by the Sith, the force would be being disturbed. EDIT: Ahh yes, and, reading another topic about Anakin's father, it would make sense that he was meant to turn Sith if his father was teh Force, as if the Force seeks to balance itself it would pump him full of hate to begin with, ensuring that he does eventually become Sith. EDIT 2 (lol): But then again, it could have simply been a vague path that he would bring balance, and that therefore no-one knew how, and that the Coucil expected him to become powerful and remain on the Light side and kill the remaining Sith as a true Jedi. Dam, if I don't stop thinking I'll never get to sleep :/. This comment was edited by Padawan on May 05 2004 11:29pm. |
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Jawa Rikard Falk - Ex-Student 
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no it was anakin some should bring balance to the force i know it i have heard it _______________ bye all i had a great time here i will never forget it i really gonna miss u all |
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Narcost - Student 
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allright, you are right, you could ofcource then take all dark powers and still be light, then you have the good thoughts.. but you NEED those darksides becouse of the balance. you cant balance it by choosing dark forcepowers, you need the dark ones in order to balance the whole thing. otherwise light would remain the most powerfull, so no balance. _______________ Little brother of Daidalus This comment was edited by Narcost on Apr 23 2004 10:53am. |
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DJK - Student 
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I'm with bail on this one But to be honest i just think that luke was the one to bring balance hehe. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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w00tt someone agrees with me!! _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Lord Jaws - Student 
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No NarCosT, couse the dark side is all evil, it's the moral and idea's of the Dark Side that are bad. Luke uses for example choke, to get to his rightfull means, and Vader used it to kill them for their errors, there is a difference, and so I agree with mr. Bail....Luke PWND VADER! _______________ One night, I was lying in my bed, looking up at the stars and I said to myself: "Where the h*** is my ceiling?! |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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well he used choke because they where evil pigs and jabba was one of the most evil _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Narcost - Student 
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yes, i totaly agree with Daidalus. Luke was the one that brought the balance. the only thing that Ani did in balancing was making luke (he did have the best part). only after Luke combined the two sides of the force there was balance. another thing then, in JK:JA luke keeps on pushing you to the light side.. everyone is.. and it is wrong if you turn dark.. if he is so into balance shouldnt he be glad you turn to the dark side because there are already so many lighty's? greetz, NC _______________ Little brother of Daidalus This comment was edited by Narcost on Apr 20 2004 08:21pm. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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no, he used choke... I agree with that actually. Remember what Kyle Katarn said: Quote: Remember... Force Powers aren't inherently good or evil. It's how you use them _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Plo Koon - Student 
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luke wont use choke! he just waves the axes back and pushes them against the wall _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Apr 20 2004 06:34pm. |
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Lord Jaws - Student 
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Admid ure wrong, yahhhh come on! _______________ One night, I was lying in my bed, looking up at the stars and I said to myself: "Where the h*** is my ceiling?! |
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Plo Koon - Student
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i dont think its choke i think he ust pushes them back,there so fat and short it looks like there grabbing there throats but its really there chest _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Jippie Phoenix - Student 
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Luke uses choke woah didn't know that but didhe bring balance and not his father _______________ |
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Lord Jaws - Student
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Plo, Luke uses choke in RotJ, on those pig-thingies, when they blocking his path. _______________ One night, I was lying in my bed, looking up at the stars and I said to myself: "Where the h*** is my ceiling?! |
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Daidalus[JAP] Fisto - Student ![Daidalus[JAP] Fisto](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=49&f_height=70&f_image=3482.jpg){kind=small}
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"he could be the one who brings balance to teh force!" that includes that there is NO balance in the force before he showed up. but: didnt yoda himself said that there wasnst any dark-force activity since thousands of years? and dont mean balance that the dark side is as strong as the light side? well if that is true, it would mean, that all jedi are idiots. becouse they want balance in a univerce where they are the stronger enforcement. maybe my logic is still cprappy wrong, but it sounds good to me.... maybe he is not the chosen one, maybe luke is the one who brings balance after everything was taken over by the dark side.... greetings, daid _______________ Founder of the Fisto Family -|- Member of the mighty FiZZsters!! -|- Owner of the second Bail prize for "BAIL RULES!!" -|- I'll never forget you Jaina! -|- Owner of the one and only autograph of Smily -|- SMILY RULES -|- Owner of the 1000th Comment of the great Kueller -|- Big brother to NarCosT Fisto, and ShadowFax . -|- Proud Padawan of Kueller -|-Sir Daidalus Fisto. Official Historian of Nippledom and server to Menaxia, Queen of Nippledom Quote: fiZZe: "gdamubububugmgmgububugrrrrrdsa?"
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Plo Koon - Student
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luke never used choke _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Lord Jaws - Student
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Well, a question that rises is: when did the Force got unbalanced. But I think that he balanced the force by eliminating the teachings of the Sith AND Jedi, so that Luke could make his own teachings, bringing Dark and Light side together. If you see that Luke used his agressive fealings too defeat his father but he did not kill him, he controlled his rage. alsi he uses choke, what surly isn't a lightside power. _______________ One night, I was lying in my bed, looking up at the stars and I said to myself: "Where the h*** is my ceiling?! |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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I think the MOMENT of balance was when he turned to the light side and killed Sidious. But wut exactly is balance? with out one side, there cant be another. So too much of one would mean unbalanced. So in all reality, its never been balanced. _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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Plo Koon - Student
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without luke anikan wouldnt of killed palpatine to bring balance _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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